How to approach neighbour about 6am screaming…

[Larrythecatforpm]

My neighbour opposite has young children, I sympathise and understand kids that age are going to make noise, it’s just what they do.

However every single weekend for the past 6 months since then moved in (and I imagine most of the summer hols) the neighbour has been letting them play out in the front garden from 6am or getting them in the car and they just scream full pelt non stop.
It’s right opposite my bedroom window, they wake me up and I can’t get back to sleep.
I am absolutely sick of it. They are council tenants can I put in a noise complaint? I have mentioned it to the mother before and she didn’t seem to see the issue using the excuse they’re little.

This morning it was from 5.45am.

Don't be ridiculous. Constant screaming from that time of the morning is a noise nuisance. Report OP.

You're wrong. We had this with an adjacent neighbours child who literally screamed 4 hours non stop.

I raised three children. We had a swimming pool and it could get quite noisy outside IF I allowed them to scream. I taught them to be considerate of others and to lower their voices. Making the lame excuse that “they’re kids” is just lazy parenting. OP shouldn’t have to move house. Neighbours should parent their children.

You can complain to the council but they will ask recordings, a list if dates and times of thd disturbances. They will suggest mediation (which i would recommend) but they are likely to do very little. Some councils leave anti social tenants terrorising neighbours for months

Yeah they would tell her there's been complaints but not sure how it will stop the kids screaming.

Its very unlikely anything would be done about small children.

It takes the complete and utter piss. She doesnt care either and is selfish. She knows darn well its out of order no one is that thick or oblivious.

You should live by my neighbours, in fact I was wondering if the OP lived opposite my neighbours until she mentioned the council tenants..

I would shout out the window VERY loudly, “Will you please stop shouting” and shut the window!

I think I'd take a different approach so I didn't have to mention neighbour disputes if I decided to sell. I'd be reporting them to social services. Welfare check is definitely needed if they are running amok at 5.45am and the screaming and shouting is that bad. As a parent that might make me stop and think over an unenforceable noise complaint.

Probably wouldn't get very far. Im with a housing association, I got invited to a conference with other people that had made complaints, some HA some privately owned people there too. We all had to decide what was antisocial behaviour.
Young kids don't tend to fall under the antisocial category.
I remember when my eldest was young. I lived in a flat, he would wake up about 4am daily, I'd try and leave within the hour to avoid making noise for my neighbours (drunk adult alcoholics who weren't considerate) I'd turn up at my mums just to get him away from the neighbours near me because of my anxiety. Maybe the mum feels the same?
10 years later I had twins and as soon as we got to the front door or was leaving leaving they'd kick off screaming, have always done it since they were babies, they are secondary now and I still have to try and give them a pep talk to remember to keep quite when leaving the house and returning, it rarely works. Sets my anxiety off all the time. I get it's not great for you but maybe earplugs or white noise just to get through this stage?

Haha, some time ago on a thread about Mumsnet batshittery, I said, "When OP has bad neighbours, and posters suggest they go round with wine and flowers." Lots of posters told me, "That never happens, I've never seen that on Mumsnet." Well, here we are!

For context my next door neighbours were dealing drugs, getting drunk and fighting in the street and breaking windows and the Housing Association couldn't really do anything and it took 2 years to put a case together to get them out. I think you'd struggle to get anywhere with abit of kid noise.

No. You can raise an antisocial behaviour complaint about anyone, regardless of whether they rent or own the property.

My NDN kid used to literally scream for fun. I mentioned to my neighbour that it sounded like she was being abused... She stopped screaming. I brought it up but it was very much light-hearted. Maybe just ask your NDN why the kids are screaming so much?

For some reason, a parent in the GP waiting room today thought it was ok for their child to scream. Not in pain, they were playing. They didnt try to shut them up. It was painful, the room is echoey. A couple of elderly people sitting next to me kept jumping and flinching, must have been unbearable for them

I never understand why people think thats acceptable.

I resorted to shouting at my neighbour. They used to let their barking dog out in the garden every morning before six, it would wake us all up everyday. I couldn't figure out who it was for a while. When I did I asked them politely etc. They carried on but they hid in the house and the dog carried on barking everyday.

I lost temper and I shouted out the window one morning that they were selfish and ruining the whole streets sleep etc and take your bloody dog for a walk. They moved soon after that, ha ha. Result.

If anything, they were probably on a waiting list and you just helped speed up the process. I cant imagine they would be rehoused if they didnt want to move.

OP- As others have said, councils/housing associations do not consider children playing or making noise anti-social behaviour. You may be able to complain about it being a nuisance but I think you need quite a lot of evidence.

That’s a good one. Sometimes I think parents don’t realise that screaming sounds like, something is wrong.

A few years ago the kids next door (older DD, 2 younger DS) would scream a lot if they were in. One day upstairs in the afternoon there was horrific screaming and crying. Turned out the younger boy aged 4 or 5 had swallowed a coin as a dare by his sister and it got stuck. Cue rush to hospital and coin removed and the kid was ok thankfully. But as I heard lots of screaming next door (I was decorating an upstairs room) usually I just thought it was normal. After that the screaming died down a lot. Their DM took them out to parks earlyish too. Their dad called them feral. They weren’t quite that but…

Is this what they call soft parenting?

Definitely complain to the Council. They are her landlord and should take responsibility.

Parenting is so shit these days. If I'd been screaming at 5.45am my mother would have slapped my face and told me to stop it! Kids learn quickly.

People? Who are the plurals you're referring to? Hopefully not the very small children who are not able to know right from wrong unless they're taught?

My neighbours dog would howl every morning at 5am . I spoke nicely then not so nicely until EVENTUALLY I went round and knocked until THEY got up. I told them if I am woken up then I would wake THEM up! Could you do the same thing?

Make a list of the incidents so far.Days, durarions times people involved etc. And anything that was shouted or scteamed.

Then keep daily diary and record any noise on s mobike sound app. The best evidence

If there no noise on any day recorcd that toom

I would ontact your local Coincil and the Housing Assocition who rent out this property to this woman as a tenant and make a complaint.

Children cannot run about screaming and shouting out of control. at that earltv inntge morning b. This is usually considered to be a Noise Nuscance and Anti Sicial Behaviour by Housing Associations.

If you do take notice. You neighhour could be issued with a Warning from the HA.

Her families behaviour seens to be commonplace nowadays in Broken Britain.

Hope you can resolve this matter soon.

Best of luck
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Are there any other neighbours that might be affected by this screaming? Maybe you could see and then maybe together you could make a complaint or make noise when the kids go to bed ( I think thats the best idea lol)
I hope you find a solution 🤞 even having had kids myself and worked with them i still find screaming so annoying and at that time of morning no way is it acceptable.

You being ‘quite wealthy’ is also irrelevant. 🙄