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To think it's time to leave the ECHR?

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Sausagenbacon · 16/07/2026 20:05

www.thejc.com/news/uk/gazan-family-refugee-status-asylum-rejection-gwsq2c8b

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SuffolkSun · 18/07/2026 01:20

Daafdjdnd · 17/07/2026 19:29

Incorporate all the laws we want domestically. Protect our borders and reclaim full control of immigration.

Fascist Indian migrant to the UK says what?

SuffolkSun · 18/07/2026 01:22

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sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 01:24

ChunkyMonkey36 · 17/07/2026 21:42

Yeah I think we’ve heard that one.

We did have the Dublin Regulation that meant we could transfer asylum seekers back to an EU country they’d arrived in before us, in some circumstances.

Guess what got rid of that?

It seems that the Dublin Agreement didn't work very well for UK.

https://dailysceptic.org/2025/10/01/fact-checking-starmers-claim-that-brexit-created-the-small-boats-crisis/

SuffolkSun · 18/07/2026 01:25

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CrazyMidget · 18/07/2026 01:48

EIGHTEEN FAMILY MEMBERS!!!

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 01:53

CrazyMidget · 18/07/2026 01:48

EIGHTEEN FAMILY MEMBERS!!!

Yup, you heard that right !

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/gazan-family-refugee-status-asylum-rejection-gwsq2c8b

this could open the floodgates...

Firetreev · 18/07/2026 03:59

Whatdidyoujustcallme · 16/07/2026 20:22

Yes. Let’s lose all equality, employment and right to a fair trial stuff! Who needs it - employers can hire and fire at will, you can fuck off with your maternity pay, in fact, forget your job, I don’t need a moody mummy asking for flexible working, or days off to look after her brats. Get rid of that silly PACE stuff, just lock em all up. If they say it wasn’t them, persuade a confession. No need for redundancy pay, or sick pay, or a minimum wage, or reasonable hours. No need for rights to a private life, who needs that?

You know when lots of silly people voted to leave the EU? And the same silly people are only just realising that they can no longer move their family to Benidorm and get a job and live there, or retire there because their income isn’t high enough?

That. You cannot cherry pick which bits of civilisation you like and ditch the bits you don’t. ECHR is international law, not just the EU you silly billy.

Agree. Clowns will vote to abandon their own rights just to give refugees a kicking. Honestly, people like this deserve whatever hardship they get, it's just depressing that we all have to suffer to.

Firetreev · 18/07/2026 04:01

Daafdjdnd · 16/07/2026 20:36

They aren't our responsibility.

They aren't, but Britain is one of the main reasons why the Gaza and the wider Middle East is in such a mess. If you don't know why please educate yourself.

Firetreev · 18/07/2026 04:07

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There is a strange strand of immigrant/second generation immigrant who seem to think that the racists don't mean them. How on earth do you explain people like Braverman?

I've noticed it especially amongst Indians and wonder if it's a hangover of the caste system. Do they think they're superior and somehow exempt from the racism? I say this as a non white person myself.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 06:14

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Look at my posting history sunshine. Do bots post across a broad spectrum of threads.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 06:17

Firetreev · 18/07/2026 04:01

They aren't, but Britain is one of the main reasons why the Gaza and the wider Middle East is in such a mess. If you don't know why please educate yourself.

Is it the Brits who have stage a long running war on the Jews? Please educate yourself.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 06:22

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More personal attacks. You've lost your argument as soon as you descend into aggressive personal rants.

CheeseyOnionPie · 18/07/2026 07:34

Daafdjdnd · 16/07/2026 20:36

They aren't our responsibility.

The uk is arming the IDF who are committing the genocide.
Ukrainians aren’t our responsibility either but the red carpet was laid out for them to come here as refugees.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 07:39

Red carpet 😆 🤣

Marmalademorning · 18/07/2026 08:07

CheeseyOnionPie · 18/07/2026 07:34

The uk is arming the IDF who are committing the genocide.
Ukrainians aren’t our responsibility either but the red carpet was laid out for them to come here as refugees.

Well, the Ukrainians were genuine refugees so I can understand that. So many other migrants are coming over here for economic reasons.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 18/07/2026 08:08

Marmalademorning · 18/07/2026 08:07

Well, the Ukrainians were genuine refugees so I can understand that. So many other migrants are coming over here for economic reasons.

Do you think Palestinians have a genuine reason to seek refuge?

inkognitha · 18/07/2026 08:17

Firetreev · 18/07/2026 04:01

They aren't, but Britain is one of the main reasons why the Gaza and the wider Middle East is in such a mess. If you don't know why please educate yourself.

We supply paperclips to a country -> anything they do is all our fault and our idea.

People have been fighting over Israel and Palestine since before the birth of Britain.

You can never get peace in the Middle East because, every time reasonable ppl try to negotiate peace, there’s always a faction who decides to do something abhorrent to torpedo the peace process, sometimes, from one side, sometimes from both. And repeat.

There’s no loyalty, sense of common responsibility or respect for the word given. On neither side. And the goal is more the destruction of the opposition rather than peace or victory.

There could be only Israelis and Palestinians left on the planet, they would have a go at each other, and between themselves too. It’s what they have always done, it’s how it’s always been, since before the Romans.

That’s why there’s no peace in the Middle East, not because of the Balfour agreement or whatever foreign intervention there has been over the years. The Egyptians, the Romans, the Ottoman Empire, the Western Powers have all tried to establish peace, they all failed and had to reach the same conclusion: whatever you try, the ppl in that region simply won’t stop fighting or bickering, even against their own best interest.

Stop the bs.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 08:20

inkognitha · 18/07/2026 08:17

We supply paperclips to a country -> anything they do is all our fault and our idea.

People have been fighting over Israel and Palestine since before the birth of Britain.

You can never get peace in the Middle East because, every time reasonable ppl try to negotiate peace, there’s always a faction who decides to do something abhorrent to torpedo the peace process, sometimes, from one side, sometimes from both. And repeat.

There’s no loyalty, sense of common responsibility or respect for the word given. On neither side. And the goal is more the destruction of the opposition rather than peace or victory.

There could be only Israelis and Palestinians left on the planet, they would have a go at each other, and between themselves too. It’s what they have always done, it’s how it’s always been, since before the Romans.

That’s why there’s no peace in the Middle East, not because of the Balfour agreement or whatever foreign intervention there has been over the years. The Egyptians, the Romans, the Ottoman Empire, the Western Powers have all tried to establish peace, they all failed and had to reach the same conclusion: whatever you try, the ppl in that region simply won’t stop fighting or bickering, even against their own best interest.

Stop the bs.

Well said. One of the best analyses I've seen on the conflict.

daisyfallout · 18/07/2026 08:50

CheeseyOnionPie · 18/07/2026 07:34

The uk is arming the IDF who are committing the genocide.
Ukrainians aren’t our responsibility either but the red carpet was laid out for them to come here as refugees.

Are you aware of the Budapest Memorandum? The agreement under which Ukraine gave up what was then the world's third largest nuclear arsenal in exchange for security guarantees from the UK, the US and Russia. As part of the deal, the warheads were transferred to Russia. History has a remarkable sense of irony.
Would you say still no responsibility?

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 09:43

CheeseyOnionPie · 18/07/2026 07:34

The uk is arming the IDF who are committing the genocide.
Ukrainians aren’t our responsibility either but the red carpet was laid out for them to come here as refugees.

"The uk is arming the IDF who are committing the genocide."

Here are some facts

Since Israel began its military campaign in Gaza after the 7 October attacks, significant public attention has focused on the issue of assistance provided by the UK. Much of the weaponry used in Israel Defense Forces' (IDF) strikes on the strip has been built or sold by Western nations.
But information around the extent of the UK's military support to Israel often remains unclear or classified, and some MPs have called for a public inquiry into the extent of the assistance.

The UK is not one of Israel's main suppliers of arms. The US is by far the biggest seller - helping Israel develop one of the world's most advanced militaries - followed by Germany and Italy.

However, much of the attention around the UK's support for Israel has focused on parts made in Britain for the F-35 jet. A state-of-the-art multi-role fighter, it has been used extensively by Israel to strike Gaza.
The UK supplies between 13-15% of the components used in the jet, including ejector seats, rear fuselage, active interceptor systems, targeting lasers and weapon release cables. However, some parts are not included on the Israeli version of the jet.
After the Labour Party came to power last year, it suspended 30 out of 350 arms export licences, affecting equipment such as parts for fighter jets, helicopters and drones.

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 09:48

ChunkyMonkey36 · 18/07/2026 08:08

Do you think Palestinians have a genuine reason to seek refuge?

There are several Muslim countries in the area (Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon) that could take them, so ask yourself why they don't help out their Muslim brothers & sisters?

They don't need to come to UK.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 09:49

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 09:48

There are several Muslim countries in the area (Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon) that could take them, so ask yourself why they don't help out their Muslim brothers & sisters?

They don't need to come to UK.

Exactly what I pointed out but you're called a racist for doing so.