AIBU to ask whether the death penalty should apply for certain crimes in the UK?

[PenelopeJoanSterling]

Because the topics got mixed up on my previous thread i thought id ask here, for certain types of crime in the uk, would you be either for or against the death penalty for certain crimes and why ?

How many errors are acceptable to you?

ill admit i forgot the optics part of it,

we have the means to free society from those criminals ?

Yes, they are called "sentencing" and "prisons".

which ever is the greater good, same way the military plans operations where sometimes theres collertial damage but the greater good overall

I think yes for a very small minority of serious cases where that person where there’s 100% evidence.

If we had it I doubt he would qualify as even when it was legal here we did not execute minors.

ok what about using closed cities for them then it keeps them apart from society ?

Countries that have the death penalty do not have lower rates of recidivism. So no. It doesn't act as a deterrent, so it's just state endorsed murder.

the errors should be min

Oh well that’s alright then. I’m sure the fact that there might be minimal errors would be a huge comfort to the guy wrongly killed.

You've been watching too much sci-fi channel!

So you're advocating killing innocent people? For the greater good.

Are you on the Neighbourhood Watch Alliance from Sandford?

that idea is from cold war soviets history of closed cities proper history and nothing fictional about them

it was in relation to you asking about how many errors

Also there's the longer term cultural impact, it indicates that there are situations where extreme violence and killing are permissable. That's not a society I want to live in and I've worked with some of the most dangerous offenders in this country.

Riiigght, so you'd be happy for one of your family members to be collateral damage for "the greater good"?

Or just other people's family members?

Because that went well

hopefully they would not be a criminal or be mixed up in crime to be suspected in the first place

Do you really not understand miscarriages of justice?

they were designed for secret weapons development projects so yes they did do well

No need, Prisons already keep them out of society for the most part.

One of the myriad of issues with Gulag systems, prison archipelago, islands etc, is that the transgressing individual is supposed to be the subject of the punishment, not third parties, and if you completely isolate prisoners from society entirely you are simultaneously punishing their families by denying them contact.

Deprivation of liberty and Disenfranchisement is the punishment, beyond that you stray into cruel and unusual territory, then it becomes vindictive.

Jesus.

You’d be ok with your child being killed for the greater good then? Or is it just other people, unknown and anonymous to you, that should be sacrificed?

For child killers yes

Have you ever heard of miscarriages of justice?

and society now should have better tech and forensics to prevent historical errors

I suspect OP you're not as dim as you portray, merely a goady fucker