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AIBU to wonder if anti-English feeling is mostly about sport

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Batsratscatsgnats · 05/07/2026 22:46

If you support anyone but England in football or other sports do you dislike English people generally or is it just in sports?

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SmallDFartyCarNRG · Yesterday 19:29

Far more likely to be anti-racist thugs than sport - unless you mean women's football, which we actually win?

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 20:41

celticnations · Yesterday 19:25

The central issue is that Westminster is despised. Being in England and the biggest spoke in the wheel to Celtic self-determination we regard English politicians in a negative light. That reflects elsewhere 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️

Your username makes me cringe.

As far as I'm concerned Westminster is an essential block on the idiocies of Holyrood.

I don't despise Westminster. I despise Holyrood.

Differentforgirls · Today 03:51

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 19:05

Why not? What a weird question. England is a constituent part of my country.

When they play against the Scots? What country btw. The UK isn’t a country. It’s a union of four.

Differentforgirls · Today 03:53

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 19:06

There are many Tory, Labour and Lib Dem voters who would vote yes in a referendum.

Oh ha ha. There really isn't.

Oh hah ha. There really is.

PomplaMouse · Today 04:08

Differentforgirls · Today 03:51

When they play against the Scots? What country btw. The UK isn’t a country. It’s a union of four.

Of course the UK is a country.

Differentforgirls · Today 04:18

PomplaMouse · Today 04:08

Of course the UK is a country.

It isn’t. The clue is in the name.

PomplaMouse · Today 04:56

Differentforgirls · Today 04:18

It isn’t. The clue is in the name.

Oh, like the United States of America?

Or the United Arab Emirates?

Or the United Republic of Tanzania?

Do you have a source for your claim?

The clue is in the "no, you do not, because of course the UK is a country".

Differentforgirls · Today 05:19

PomplaMouse · Today 04:56

Oh, like the United States of America?

Or the United Arab Emirates?

Or the United Republic of Tanzania?

Do you have a source for your claim?

The clue is in the "no, you do not, because of course the UK is a country".

No it isnt. Scotland, England and Wales are countries. NI could be considered part of one of a separate one. UK is a political union.

PomplaMouse · Today 05:45

Differentforgirls · Today 05:19

No it isnt. Scotland, England and Wales are countries. NI could be considered part of one of a separate one. UK is a political union.

The UK is a country.

It is recognized as such by international law.

The EU is a political union. It used to be composed of 28 member countries.

Now its composed of 27, because one country left. Any ideas which one?

England, Wales and Scotland are termed "constituent countries" but are essentially the equivalent of a US state or a Canadian Province/Territory. The UK is akin to the USA or Canada.

In fact, that slightly overstates England et al's legal legal status - constitutionally speaking, US states are more like true countries.

Differentforgirls · Today 06:18

PomplaMouse · Today 05:45

The UK is a country.

It is recognized as such by international law.

The EU is a political union. It used to be composed of 28 member countries.

Now its composed of 27, because one country left. Any ideas which one?

England, Wales and Scotland are termed "constituent countries" but are essentially the equivalent of a US state or a Canadian Province/Territory. The UK is akin to the USA or Canada.

In fact, that slightly overstates England et al's legal legal status - constitutionally speaking, US states are more like true countries.

I disagree. Try to understand that concept. Disagreeing is ok.

PhaedraTwo · Today 06:48

Differentforgirls · Today 06:18

I disagree. Try to understand that concept. Disagreeing is ok.

Disagreeing is OK isn't a concept you understand. You're completely wrong about the UK not being a country.

But here's a few other things you're wrong about too.

Scottish separatism is a deluded concept based on emotions including illogical inferiority complexes, sentimental nonsense and narrow minded racism.

The SNP has no interest in running Scotland well. Scottish education for example has plummeted down the Pisa ratings but it's more important for Swinney to parade round making ridiculous gestures about Celtic nations.

Differentforgirls · Today 06:53

PhaedraTwo · Today 06:48

Disagreeing is OK isn't a concept you understand. You're completely wrong about the UK not being a country.

But here's a few other things you're wrong about too.

Scottish separatism is a deluded concept based on emotions including illogical inferiority complexes, sentimental nonsense and narrow minded racism.

The SNP has no interest in running Scotland well. Scottish education for example has plummeted down the Pisa ratings but it's more important for Swinney to parade round making ridiculous gestures about Celtic nations.

Whatever. I DISAGREE!

Seymour5 · Today 07:36

Differentforgirls · Today 03:51

When they play against the Scots? What country btw. The UK isn’t a country. It’s a union of four.

Never against Scotland, but otherwise I would. Just the same as DH who roots for Scotland, except when they play England. I’m Scots, he’s English. We were both cheering on Josh Kerr, a Scot, who won for Great Britain recently in the 1500 metres in the Ultimate Championships.

My DNA is mainly Scottish, highlander DGF, but also Irish and English. Add a bit of Welsh for some of my DGC. Better together IMO.

Differentforgirls · Today 07:45

Seymour5 · Today 07:36

Never against Scotland, but otherwise I would. Just the same as DH who roots for Scotland, except when they play England. I’m Scots, he’s English. We were both cheering on Josh Kerr, a Scot, who won for Great Britain recently in the 1500 metres in the Ultimate Championships.

My DNA is mainly Scottish, highlander DGF, but also Irish and English. Add a bit of Welsh for some of my DGC. Better together IMO.

I support Independence but will always feel affinity with the people in the other three nations.

celticnations · Today 19:33

PomplaMouse · Today 04:08

Of course the UK is a country.

No. It is not. The UK is a voluntary (🤔) political union of 4 Nations.

Differentforgirls · Today 19:41

celticnations · Today 19:33

No. It is not. The UK is a voluntary (🤔) political union of 4 Nations.

You have to wonder why we get the option on forms to tick “white Scottish” if Scotland isn’t a country.

Never seen one that said “white Uk”.

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