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How is this 'protest'? Helen Mirren targetted

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Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 12:19

A 'protestor' called Dame Helen Mirren an 'evil Zionist Bitch'. How does this actually help 'palestine'? AIBU

YANBU - this isn't protest and doesn't help palestine

YABU - this is protest and is ok

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15854799/Dame-Helen-Mirren-evil-Zionist-pro-Palestine.html

Moment Dame Helen Mirren is called an 'evil Zionist b****' in London

The video, first posted by an anonymous account Anti-Fascist Action UK, shows the Oscar-winning actress being approached as she walked in London with her husband.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15854799/Dame-Helen-Mirren-evil-Zionist-pro-Palestine.html

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orangegato · 28/05/2026 12:59

There are so many Muslim countries but people think believing there should be one single Jewish country on the planet are evil?

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:00

SpringIsCome · 28/05/2026 12:51

https://www.timesofisrael.com/helen-mirren-israel-must-exist-for-eternity-because-of-the-holocaust/

Helen thinks the Middle East needs to suffer because of European evil

She doesn't say anywhere that the middle east needs to suffer. Now you are just making things up.

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Lahsania · 28/05/2026 13:00

There’s always been stupid loudmouths. Now they are using political divisiveness as an excuse to be stupid loudmouths. Not worth any attention. Louts with idiocy.

Pudmyboy · 28/05/2026 13:01

SpringIsCome · 28/05/2026 12:51

https://www.timesofisrael.com/helen-mirren-israel-must-exist-for-eternity-because-of-the-holocaust/

Helen thinks the Middle East needs to suffer because of European evil

You missed off a very telling first line:
'I witnessed things that were wrong....I saw Arabs being thrown out of their houses in Jerusalem....
Throws a very different light on her, though the rest of the quote was correct.

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:02

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You missed the begginning of the quote. Now why would that be?

“I witnessed things that were wrong,” she said of her visit."

I found the bit you quoted and you missed the bit off where she said she witnessed things that were wrong.

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Weeellokthen · 28/05/2026 13:02

SpringIsCome · 28/05/2026 12:51

https://www.timesofisrael.com/helen-mirren-israel-must-exist-for-eternity-because-of-the-holocaust/

Helen thinks the Middle East needs to suffer because of European evil

You deliberately missed the start of the quote "I witnessed things that were wrong"

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:03

Pudmyboy · 28/05/2026 13:01

You missed off a very telling first line:
'I witnessed things that were wrong....I saw Arabs being thrown out of their houses in Jerusalem....
Throws a very different light on her, though the rest of the quote was correct.

I just posted the same thing after finally finding the apparent quotation. The '“I witnessed things that were wrong,” she said of her visit. Missed off.

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Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:04

Lahsania · 28/05/2026 13:00

There’s always been stupid loudmouths. Now they are using political divisiveness as an excuse to be stupid loudmouths. Not worth any attention. Louts with idiocy.

Some of them are dangerous though. They read half bits of information perhaps, missing bits of quotes, hear the online and in public calls to action eg 'Globalise the Intifada' and maybe some of these stupid loudmouths may be embolded into direct action.

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Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:06

orangegato · 28/05/2026 12:59

There are so many Muslim countries but people think believing there should be one single Jewish country on the planet are evil?

No room for Jewish people, that's awful. I note that many muslim countries did have Jewish people living there but over the years the numbers of Jewish people have fallen in those countries with many fleeing to Israel. Jewish people in the Uk and Europe feeling unsafe too. History repeating itself.

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bloooooberry · 28/05/2026 13:12

SwatTheTwit · 28/05/2026 12:55

She’s not Jewish, so I’m confused why anyone is saying this was an antisemitic attack on her?

Calling her a bitch is wrong of course, calling her a zionist is just stating a fact?

I was looking for this comment. No idea why people are calling this antisemitism.

Lahsania · 28/05/2026 13:15

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:04

Some of them are dangerous though. They read half bits of information perhaps, missing bits of quotes, hear the online and in public calls to action eg 'Globalise the Intifada' and maybe some of these stupid loudmouths may be embolded into direct action.

Agree. They are convinced they are in the right by their own little online echo chambers, and they aren’t intelligent, so are very dodgy. Intelligence levels low, thinking skills undeveloped, information only partial = dodgy dangerous idiots.

balabusta · 28/05/2026 13:18

SpringIsCome · 28/05/2026 12:51

https://www.timesofisrael.com/helen-mirren-israel-must-exist-for-eternity-because-of-the-holocaust/

Helen thinks the Middle East needs to suffer because of European evil

She was talking about Jerusalem in 1967. Presumably she meant the area that became the Western Wall plaza when people, mainly Arabs who had moved in since the Jews had all been thrown from THEIR homes in the Old City of Jerusalem 19 years previously, were evicted to other parts of Jerusalem.

Wrong but hardly the reason not to exist as a country.

Well, the European countries that carried out the Holocaust and refused entry to desperate Jewish refugees (including Palestine under British rule) could resettle all the Palestinian refugees. Problem sorted.

Oh, and perhaps you could tell the Iraqis not to carry out violent pogroms against their Jewish populations like the Farhud in 1941 and then expel them all and steal all their property. Perhaps also tell that to the Yemenis, Syrians, Libyans, Tunisians, Algeirians etc etc. I mean, let's not forget the approximately 900,000 Jews expelled from the Arab/Muslim world, most of whom sought refuge in Israel.

Sorry that the existence of a Jewish homeland bothers you but the Holocaust ws just the peak of 2000 years of discrimination and persecution. The Jewish people learnt what happens when you are always a minority and the necessity of national self determination.

Everanewbie · 28/05/2026 13:19

And these people accosting an elderly woman, whose art has given entertainment and joy to millions over decades will undoubtably call themselves the good guys.

Idiots.

balabusta · 28/05/2026 13:20

bloooooberry · 28/05/2026 13:12

I was looking for this comment. No idea why people are calling this antisemitism.

if she believed in the right of Wales to exist as a separate country, what would you call her? He was obviously using the fact that she thinks Jews are entitled to self determination as some kind of insut. Weird. Why are you all so obsessed with Jews? Why do Jews seem to live rent free in your head.

noblegiraffe · 28/05/2026 13:21

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Did you genuinely not know the full quote where she says that was wrong, or were you deliberately providing a misleading quote?

I have seen the shortened quote circulating Twitter these past few days and I imagine that is why someone felt able to shout abuse at her in the street.

bloooooberry · 28/05/2026 13:23

balabusta · 28/05/2026 13:20

if she believed in the right of Wales to exist as a separate country, what would you call her? He was obviously using the fact that she thinks Jews are entitled to self determination as some kind of insut. Weird. Why are you all so obsessed with Jews? Why do Jews seem to live rent free in your head.

Hi, I'm Jewish so yes Jews live rent free in my head. I am just confused as to why this is being described as 'anti semitic' when HM is not Jewish. Not sure why you're going off at me, I made no comment on the actual incident. Maybe try to calm down a bit.

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:24

balabusta · 28/05/2026 13:18

She was talking about Jerusalem in 1967. Presumably she meant the area that became the Western Wall plaza when people, mainly Arabs who had moved in since the Jews had all been thrown from THEIR homes in the Old City of Jerusalem 19 years previously, were evicted to other parts of Jerusalem.

Wrong but hardly the reason not to exist as a country.

Well, the European countries that carried out the Holocaust and refused entry to desperate Jewish refugees (including Palestine under British rule) could resettle all the Palestinian refugees. Problem sorted.

Oh, and perhaps you could tell the Iraqis not to carry out violent pogroms against their Jewish populations like the Farhud in 1941 and then expel them all and steal all their property. Perhaps also tell that to the Yemenis, Syrians, Libyans, Tunisians, Algeirians etc etc. I mean, let's not forget the approximately 900,000 Jews expelled from the Arab/Muslim world, most of whom sought refuge in Israel.

Sorry that the existence of a Jewish homeland bothers you but the Holocaust ws just the peak of 2000 years of discrimination and persecution. The Jewish people learnt what happens when you are always a minority and the necessity of national self determination.

Thank you. People appear to ignore that Jewish people have been removed from their homes too and have had to leave many areas in the middle east. The Jewish exodos from the muslim countries appears to be ignored. Other ethnicities that have had violent pogroms as you say in the middle east too. There has been much persecution and to blame Jewish people for everything that happened in Gaza is wrong.

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Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:25

noblegiraffe · 28/05/2026 13:21

Did you genuinely not know the full quote where she says that was wrong, or were you deliberately providing a misleading quote?

I have seen the shortened quote circulating Twitter these past few days and I imagine that is why someone felt able to shout abuse at her in the street.

This is what I wondered. Changing the meaning of something by taking off a cruicial bit and then spreading it around helps fuel hatred. Why do that.

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Lahsania · 28/05/2026 13:30

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:25

This is what I wondered. Changing the meaning of something by taking off a cruicial bit and then spreading it around helps fuel hatred. Why do that.

There’s a toxic zeitgeist of guilt - tripping and feigning moral superiority. I really hope it fades, it’s nauseating and attracts all the not very bright people, makes them feel important.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 28/05/2026 13:47

SwatTheTwit · 28/05/2026 12:55

She’s not Jewish, so I’m confused why anyone is saying this was an antisemitic attack on her?

Calling her a bitch is wrong of course, calling her a zionist is just stating a fact?

Hate crimes, antisemitic or otherwise, are defined by the perceived identity of the victim and what has motivated the offender.
The victim's actual identity/orientation/pc is nether here nor there.

And your 'confusion' over the law, is irrelevant.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 28/05/2026 13:50

Blueredyellowgreen · 28/05/2026 13:25

This is what I wondered. Changing the meaning of something by taking off a cruicial bit and then spreading it around helps fuel hatred. Why do that.

I arrived after the deletion, but I didn't have to see it to know what the quote would be, and which bits would have been left out of it.
You can see them coming even in the dark....

MrsShawnHatosy · 28/05/2026 13:53

balabusta · 28/05/2026 13:20

if she believed in the right of Wales to exist as a separate country, what would you call her? He was obviously using the fact that she thinks Jews are entitled to self determination as some kind of insut. Weird. Why are you all so obsessed with Jews? Why do Jews seem to live rent free in your head.

I believe in that Jews are entitled to self determination. I believe Palestinians are too.

Newrumpus · 28/05/2026 13:54

Helen Mirren - what a wonderful lady and amazing actress. How dignified during this incident. I love her!

ThisBirdOnThatRoof · 28/05/2026 14:03

Obviously it is wrong to shout at elderly women.

I am disappointed in Helen Mirren if even 10% of this is true: https://www.reversecanarymission.org/person/helen-mirren

People are being driven mad because our government is weak on genocide and international human rights/criminal law, and is ok profiting from arms trade i.e. has an interest in people getting killed. They are acting individualistically because of the failure of moral leadership.

Labour has an antisemitism problem AND it is endangering Jewish people by pretending that all British Jews are pro-Israeli and that being soft on an extreme right warmongering state is the thing to do. Why don't they addres their own antisemitism?

And read some Torah.

balabusta · 28/05/2026 14:19

MrsShawnHatosy · 28/05/2026 13:53

I believe in that Jews are entitled to self determination. I believe Palestinians are too.

That makes you a zionist