AIBU to think these boys should have been incarcerated?

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BBC News - Teenage boys sentenced for raping lone girls
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clypg68e2neo

I've never started an AIBU before, but I'm genuinely really shocked. I'm just not sure how this sentence is justifiable. Their actions were premeditated and deliberate, they were carrying a knife and they filmed themselves. They're obviously a danger to women/girls, and probably to other boys too.

If anyone knows how and why this sentence might have come about, I'd be interested to hear it.

Thanks for proving my point.

I have also submitted a form. This sentence is disgusting.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

I have literally just read this, it is appalling, basically a green light for teenagers to rape!!

The Daily Mail for all its faults is almost the only paper that takes violence against women and girls seriously.

I read this today whilst I was in the gym and I had to stop training I was just so appalled disgusted and angry. I feel so much for the poor girls. I am not one to campaign about things but this needs addressing so I’m writing to my MP and will sign petition. I hope the press get and whip up a storm. Those boys mothers and fathers raised monsters not boys. Those girls lives are ruined. So are their families. This sends a dreadful message to boys that they can rape young girls and get away with it. They deserve absolutely to get a decent custodial sentence. The judge is deranged and the government need to step in. So much for protection of women and girls. Starmer has nothing to help the cause - I saw what Jess Phillips MP said in her resignation letter who resigned as safeguarding minister - it just proves her point .

Form sent and email to Home Secretary. Scandalous

Funny how they’re all too “disabled” or/and of low intelligence to get a real sentence, but they weren’t disabled /low intelligence enough when they groomed a girl, planned their crimes, got weapons , decided to film it, and repeatedly raped , assaulted and humiliated two girls.

These boys have probably ROBBED these girls of experiencing Falling in Love for the first time and getting innocently married.
These girls probably will have psychological serious trauma symptoms including Panic episodes, PTSD which will last for years and could need intense therapy for a long time.
As for the boys , they probably just went home, had a Shower, change of underpants, and life carrying on as normal; until they get bored again abd find another lone girl to r @ p e.

Hard agree with you. One of the most disgusting things I've read in a very long time. The fact the judge said they didn't know what they were doing and PRAISED them for their conduct in court - ugh.

Explaining his sentence, Judge Nicholas Rowland said: "I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily…”

what the actual fuck

Reacting to the sentences, Hampshire Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) Donna Jones said: "I'm deeply concerned these boys felt they could carry out such terrifying acts and share them online and not go to prison.
"Their sentences reflect a clear focus on rehabilitation rather than criminalisation. They are far too lenient."

This has been playing on my mind. I wondered if I had misreading the sentence they received.

Looks like the police agree - from the BBC article. Hopefully they'll push for an appeal too.

Reacting to the sentences, Hampshire Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) Donna Jones said: "I'm deeply concerned these boys felt they could carry out such terrifying acts and share them online and not go to prison.

"Their sentences reflect a clear focus on rehabilitation rather than criminalisation. They are far too lenient."

You said nothing of the sort. You said the boys should be caned and you'd favour the judge being gang raped in an alley. Don't try to justify it.

So how will they be capable of re-education/ rehabilitation if they don't have the capacity to understand that rape is wrong.

What would you suggest is done with them.

Mental asylum for life?!

I do think the Sentencing Council and the guidelines they give to Judges need to be changed.
The sense of public outrage needs to be factored into sentencing.

I have filled in the online form to say I thinks it’s too lenient a sentence. It’s absolutely disgusting. We’ll be reading more about the crimes these boys commit in the future.

They showed no remorse and didn’t even admit they’d done it. I’m crying as I type this - I can’t believe this is the world we live in.

Please don’t interpret my question as some sort of apology for their crimes.

The Court found they were fit for trial in any event. Given the low level of capacity I did wonder how.

He had guidelines. The guidelines include an option of a custodial sentence. He chose not to do that. So yes another fucking man supporting rapists. And if I had a male child who did something this horrific I’d be appealing myself; I’d want the little shit to receive a custodial sentence and allow society to do what I’d failed.

I’ve just filled this in too. I’m absolutely raging for those poor girls

Jesus Christ I haven’t yet RTFT (at 16.27) but @FinchiePinkWe get it. You have told us it’s a waste of time. To be honest in the war against VAWG most actions are pissing in the wind but this is a way of getting voices heard. Some poor bugger in an office is going to open a blown up inbox soon and the response will be noted.

It is horrifying for the girls. I don't understand why the judge was so complimentary of the boys? In view of what the boys said in court, like this:

The boys attempted to portray their victims as liars in court.
One claimed of the second victim: 'She was flirting with me. She made it up for a story to make up why she went missing to her mum and dad.
'It stopped her getting into trouble with her parents. I hadn't used a knife at all.'

I apologise that my total of five short posts on the matter have made the thread so difficult for you.