AIBU to post solidarity with the Jewish community here?

[RochelleMajerKrich]

I deleted my previous account (due to poor mental health) but I’m back.

Solidarity with the Jewish community.

Much love to you all.

I will always support you.

Thank you @RochelleMajerKrich for starting this thread, I will very gladly add my support too, I hope the people on Jewish Mumsnetters see this thread and know they are not alone, despite the loud hostile voices that seem to get the attention these days.✡️

Thank you ❤️

The BBC today had a report of a Jewish family in Manchester who were making the move to Israel, as they no longer felt safe in their home. How utterly heartbreak is that? A home they wanted to enjoy in their retirement, taken from them by the actions of mindless thugs. Driven out of their own country by violence and hatred.

We all ought to feel ashamed.

As a country, collectively, we have failed.

It’s heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time.

You can be against Zionism and the crimes Israel is committing and NOT be antisemitic.

They are not mutually exclusive either!

It’s absolutely heartbreaking @FailedToLaunch. And it makes me so mad. How dare these bastards drive our friends away with their bigotry and hatred.

Very helpful. 🙄

This thread illustrates yet again just how much antisemitism is rife in this country

People can dress it up with ‘oh but Gaza’

and all the usual shite all they want

but no, you’re antisemitic

Own it.

She is talking about Polanski, who quite clearly is antisemitic, and is actively encouraging antisemitism within his own party, and in wider society.

A quite disgraceful, despicable individual.

Thank you for starting this thread, OP.

I too stand with Jewish people in the UK and elsewhere.

I’m alarmed and disgusted at the vile, rampant antisemitism that has been not just tolerated, but encouraged within the UK. It must STOP.

Thank you x

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I don't think they even understand what Zionism means in practice. so, the poor Jewish man I referenced who is fleeing Manchester due to anti-Semitic attacks on his doorstep, and is escaping to Israel, where would the anti Zionists suggest he go?

Yeah...no. I'm not sure you can be anti-zionist and not be antisemetic, actually.

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Zionism gained credibility as an idea in the 19th century in response to rising antisemitism in Europe. Many Eastern European Jews argued against the idea, suggesting that they had as much in common with other working class people, and the solidarity of the working classes would help them stay safe. Unfortunately this belief in class solidarity was misplaced and many Jews lost their lives in a series of programs, or were forced to flee, some to places like the UK to seek sanctuary.

Some Jews support the idea of Israel as a homeland for Jews - out of a need to live in safety and without fear of discrimination or death.

Just up thread is a concrete example of Jew feeling unsafe and heading into the protection of Israel. Israel is a country at high risk of attack, so they must be feeling pretty desperate to consider such a move.

Some Jews will interpret your ‘anti Zionism’ as a sentiment that denies their right to safety and to be able to live their lives without fear and discrimination.

The best route out of this is to love Jewish people unconditionally. Help create safety where Jewish people live now. Where Jewish people feel safe, they generally stay, or only move for the more usual reasons such as for work or study.

Anti-Zionist but not anti-Semitic? How?

You can disagree with Zionism as a political ideology, or oppose the actions of the Israeli government, without disliking Jewish people as a whole.

Antisemitism is prejudice against Jews. Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism. They can overlap in some cases but they are not automatically the same thing. Just the same as criticising any other country or political movement isn’t automatically hatred of its people.

Yes, I always wonder how… it doesn’t seem possible.

Good to know a lot of my comments are being deleted whereas a lot of really appalling comments have been left to stand, not just today, but over the past few weeks, months etc

That's what I was thinking ☹️.
It's awful.

Antisemitism is alive and thriving in this country.

Shameful.

But I’m sure someone will be along in a moment with the usual ‘but Gaza’

No.

Just no.

You’re the only person who’s mentioned Gaza. Twice.

Can you imagine that this might be because of previous threads?

Drop the faux naivety.