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To not believe Keir Starmer

277 replies

Viviennemary · 16/04/2026 20:10

I'm sick of Keir Starmer's dodging over Peter Mandelson. He said he wasn't aware PM hadn't passed security vetting. He's been asked again and again about this. The knives are definitely out for him and I would be glad to see the back of him.

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edwinbear · 16/04/2026 21:13

He’s told so many lies he’s at the point he can’t remember what he’s said, when and to whom. He’s either lying, or didn’t ask the explicit question ‘has he cleared security vetting’. Neither is a good outcome. I dread to think what other security vetting he’s ignored, or forgotten to ask about.

Viviennemary · 16/04/2026 21:46

I think he will cling on. If he really didn't know he hasn't got his finger on the pulse. I agree neither answer is a good outcome.

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Overtheatlantic · 16/04/2026 21:50

But Why would he risk his political career over Peter Mandelson? It doesn’t make any sense.

edwinbear · 16/04/2026 21:51

They will want him in charge for the May elections though I expect, so he can take the fall out from those. This really is difficult for him to wriggle out of though, either dishonest or incompetent.

TempestTost · 16/04/2026 21:55

If he didn't know, it seems like someone must have chosen not to tell him?

edwinbear · 16/04/2026 22:03

TempestTost · 16/04/2026 21:55

If he didn't know, it seems like someone must have chosen not to tell him?

That may be the case, but surely if you’re looking to appoint a controversial figure to such a high profile role, the first question you ask is ‘has he cleared security vetting’. Not just assume someone will let you know if there’s a problem.

Ablondiebutagoody · 16/04/2026 22:11

He is a slopy-shouldered, lying buffoon. Dispise the man.

Whatever any process or vetting said, the correct response should have been: "Mandelson? Are you having a laugh?!"

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:11

Who cares? He's the best man to lead the UK right now.

i'm sick of the 24 hour UK news cycle creating drama over nothing. The last thing the UK needs is another change of prime minister

ACynicalDad · 16/04/2026 22:24

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:11

Who cares? He's the best man to lead the UK right now.

i'm sick of the 24 hour UK news cycle creating drama over nothing. The last thing the UK needs is another change of prime minister

There's not a lot of talent on the labour front bench I give you that, but there must be someone better!

ACynicalDad · 16/04/2026 22:25

He will hang on, but weakened, then the elections will come and he will be weakened further, almost mortally wounded, and the next one after that will see him gone.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:29

ACynicalDad · 16/04/2026 22:24

There's not a lot of talent on the labour front bench I give you that, but there must be someone better!

Who?
Bloody Russian-money taking swindler Farage?
zack 'breast hypnotist' Polanski who thinks men can be women?
another bloody Tory?

Starmer has handled the Iran war very well, and told Trump where to go. The press don't like him as he doesn't protect the interests of the rigth wing press barons.

Seriously who gives a shit about Peter Mandelson? He's gay, he wasn't even involved in any of the girl trafficking. It's all such a fuss about nothing. Are people really this stupid?

senua · 16/04/2026 22:30

He's the best man to lead the UK right now.
Best man? Ah, this is because Labour only ever chooses its leaders from the XY, never the XX.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:31

senua · 16/04/2026 22:30

He's the best man to lead the UK right now.
Best man? Ah, this is because Labour only ever chooses its leaders from the XY, never the XX.

Well who do you suggest?

Beesandhoney123 · 16/04/2026 22:32

There is no point him lying or pretending he didn't know/ wasn't told. Of course he knows about vetting. Of course he knew Sneaky Pete wouldn't pass.

Get your coat, Mr Starmer. Because what you got out of it will become public knowledge at some point.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:33

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SummerFrog2026 · 16/04/2026 22:34

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:11

Who cares? He's the best man to lead the UK right now.

i'm sick of the 24 hour UK news cycle creating drama over nothing. The last thing the UK needs is another change of prime minister

You have to be joking.

if he's the best we can do, we might as well give up now

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:35

SummerFrog2026 · 16/04/2026 22:34

You have to be joking.

if he's the best we can do, we might as well give up now

What are you basing this opinion on?
And who would you orefer?

InterestedDad37 · 16/04/2026 22:37

Ablondiebutagoody · 16/04/2026 22:11

He is a slopy-shouldered, lying buffoon. Dispise the man.

Whatever any process or vetting said, the correct response should have been: "Mandelson? Are you having a laugh?!"

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"Slop(e)y shouldered 😂😂

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:37

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:31

Well who do you suggest?

How about Peter Mandelson? Highly experienced, fantastic connections, great at interviews, has the common touch. A true exponent of Labour values and standards. 👍

saraclara · 16/04/2026 22:39

I believe him. With his lawyer background I can't imagine him even considering giving the job to someone who'd failed security checks.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:40

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:37

How about Peter Mandelson? Highly experienced, fantastic connections, great at interviews, has the common touch. A true exponent of Labour values and standards. 👍

It's very interesting that no one is willing to say who they think shoukd take charge. Probably because they are ashamed to admit they are going to vote reform or green because they know, deep down, how moronic that is and how stupid they are to fall for populism.

Still waiting for a suggestion...

Beesandhoney123 · 16/04/2026 22:41

@Preppyprepper what? Why are you enquiring about my mental health? Are you accusing me of being mentally unwell because I find it difficult to believe Mr Starmer is unaware of the political corruption Mr Mandelson represents and that thinking Mandelson would be a great choice was possibly the most idiotic career limiting decision he could have made?

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:42

Beesandhoney123 · 16/04/2026 22:41

@Preppyprepper what? Why are you enquiring about my mental health? Are you accusing me of being mentally unwell because I find it difficult to believe Mr Starmer is unaware of the political corruption Mr Mandelson represents and that thinking Mandelson would be a great choice was possibly the most idiotic career limiting decision he could have made?

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No, I was just flummoxed by your odd writing style and opinions

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:42

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:29

Who?
Bloody Russian-money taking swindler Farage?
zack 'breast hypnotist' Polanski who thinks men can be women?
another bloody Tory?

Starmer has handled the Iran war very well, and told Trump where to go. The press don't like him as he doesn't protect the interests of the rigth wing press barons.

Seriously who gives a shit about Peter Mandelson? He's gay, he wasn't even involved in any of the girl trafficking. It's all such a fuss about nothing. Are people really this stupid?

A lot of people care. Just because you don’t care about what his involvement was with Epstein doesn’t make it okay. The files are more than trafficking if you have a look at them.

ProudAmberTurtle · 16/04/2026 22:43

He'll be gone by this time next month, that's for sure.

Who will replace him?

Either Angela Rayner or Ed Milliband.