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To not believe Keir Starmer

277 replies

Viviennemary · 16/04/2026 20:10

I'm sick of Keir Starmer's dodging over Peter Mandelson. He said he wasn't aware PM hadn't passed security vetting. He's been asked again and again about this. The knives are definitely out for him and I would be glad to see the back of him.

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Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:43

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:42

A lot of people care. Just because you don’t care about what his involvement was with Epstein doesn’t make it okay. The files are more than trafficking if you have a look at them.

So who do you prefer?

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:45

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:43

So who do you prefer?

Preferably no one from Labour but if I had to pick I’d say Andy Burnham.

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:45

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:40

It's very interesting that no one is willing to say who they think shoukd take charge. Probably because they are ashamed to admit they are going to vote reform or green because they know, deep down, how moronic that is and how stupid they are to fall for populism.

Still waiting for a suggestion...

Maybe many are just enjoying a chuckle at the well-deserved downfall of a useless, self-righteous, petulant hypocrite? We don’t need to champion any other of the sad collection of Labour no-marks.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:46

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:45

Maybe many are just enjoying a chuckle at the well-deserved downfall of a useless, self-righteous, petulant hypocrite? We don’t need to champion any other of the sad collection of Labour no-marks.

So which party are you voting for then?

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GaIadriel · 16/04/2026 22:47

Looking ever more certain Reform will get in.

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:47

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:46

So which party are you voting for then?

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xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:49

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:46

So which party are you voting for then?

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Why are you being so aggressive and asking questions that have nothing to do with the OP’s post? This is about Starmer not giving a straight answer not a you gov voting intention poll.

edwinbear · 16/04/2026 22:49

The very last person we need in charge of the country right now, is someone who ignores his security services. That’s the sort of thing Trump would do.

DrudgeJedd · 16/04/2026 22:50

He's gay, he wasn't even involved in any of the girl trafficking. It's all such a fuss about nothing. Are people really this stupid?

Ah yes, because Epstein would definitely not traffic boys.
"Are people really this stupid?"

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:50

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:47

🙄

Reform then.

So you are happy to vote for Farage, who is racist, corrupt and responsible for the shot show that is Brexit, but come on here and rant about Peter Mandelson?

Yikes

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 16/04/2026 22:52

Nah, I'm Team Starmer. I think he is a genuine, honest man with integrity. Keep him for the full parliament I say!

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:53

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:49

Why are you being so aggressive and asking questions that have nothing to do with the OP’s post? This is about Starmer not giving a straight answer not a you gov voting intention poll.

Don't you find it odd that people who follow politics closely enough to give their opinion on this post won't say which politics party they are backing?

Do you think it's because they are ashamed, or just don't actually know much about politics but read the front page of the daily mail?

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:55

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:53

Don't you find it odd that people who follow politics closely enough to give their opinion on this post won't say which politics party they are backing?

Do you think it's because they are ashamed, or just don't actually know much about politics but read the front page of the daily mail?

No. As I’ve said previously the OP’s post has absolutely nothing to do with voting intention but Farage is taking up so much space in your head rent free that you don’t seem to grasp that.

TheFrendo · 16/04/2026 22:55

Overtheatlantic · 16/04/2026 21:50

But Why would he risk his political career over Peter Mandelson? It doesn’t make any sense.

Mandelson knows where the proverbial bodies/rentboys are buried?

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:55

DrudgeJedd · 16/04/2026 22:50

He's gay, he wasn't even involved in any of the girl trafficking. It's all such a fuss about nothing. Are people really this stupid?

Ah yes, because Epstein would definitely not traffic boys.
"Are people really this stupid?"

Are you making an allegation that Mandelson is a paedophile? Quite a bold move unless you have evidence, unless you are comfortable being pursued for libel.

What evidence do you have that he abused boys on Epsteins Island?

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:56

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:55

No. As I’ve said previously the OP’s post has absolutely nothing to do with voting intention but Farage is taking up so much space in your head rent free that you don’t seem to grasp that.

Who do you prefer, Starmer or Farage?

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:58

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:56

Who do you prefer, Starmer or Farage?

Neither but I’m swaying towards Farage by the minute just to piss you off.

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:59

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:50

Reform then.

So you are happy to vote for Farage, who is racist, corrupt and responsible for the shot show that is Brexit, but come on here and rant about Peter Mandelson?

Yikes

No. You’re wrong. But it really doesn’t matter.

Starmer’s dismal performance and his defenestration have nothing to do with any other party.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 23:00

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 22:58

Neither but I’m swaying towards Farage by the minute just to piss you off.

It doesn't piss me off, it gives me the satisfaction of being correct in seeing people for what they are.

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 23:00

Rummly · 16/04/2026 22:59

No. You’re wrong. But it really doesn’t matter.

Starmer’s dismal performance and his defenestration have nothing to do with any other party.

Well it does, as the parties compete against each other, you see.

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 23:03

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 23:00

It doesn't piss me off, it gives me the satisfaction of being correct in seeing people for what they are.

Didn’t realise we only had the choice between Starmer or Farage 🤦‍♀️

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 23:03

xanthomelana · 16/04/2026 23:03

Didn’t realise we only had the choice between Starmer or Farage 🤦‍♀️

Ah. So who else has your vote?

Rummly · 16/04/2026 23:03

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 23:00

Well it does, as the parties compete against each other, you see.

Oh I see. The opposition parties made Starmer so useless and unpleasant. Got it.

Shame on them!

swingingbytheseat · 16/04/2026 23:05

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 22:11

Who cares? He's the best man to lead the UK right now.

i'm sick of the 24 hour UK news cycle creating drama over nothing. The last thing the UK needs is another change of prime minister

This

Preppyprepper · 16/04/2026 23:07

Rummly · 16/04/2026 23:03

Oh I see. The opposition parties made Starmer so useless and unpleasant. Got it.

Shame on them!

This is not the witty response you seem to think it is. Are you resorting to this childish nonesense because you are unable to come up with a clever response that might challenge my thinking, or are you just trolling (or pissed)