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Please continue to protest!

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Icreatedausernameyippee · 03/10/2025 23:46

In the wake of the tragic events that took place in Manchester, I want to implore people not to lose steam or, more importantly, hope.

Gaza is still facing destruction, famine and genocide.

We need to continue to peacefully pressure our government to take action and sanction the Israeli government and to educate and inform people about the horrors faced by the Palestinian people day in and day out for the last two years.

People who opposed the liberation of Palestine want for this to be a turning point. For people to point the finger at a movement that wants to see the end of the suffering of millions and label it as inciting hate.

It's not.
And it's important.

Please don't put down your passion for Gaza.

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wrongthinker · 04/10/2025 17:37

What strikes me on this thread is how certain people are of their opinion being right when they are simultaneously ignorant of some very basic facts to do with the situation. Such as the fact that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. That Israel has been supplying aid to Gaza. That Hamas explicitly states its wish to exterminate all Jews worldwide. That Hamas has repeatedly refused to agree to the terms of ceasefires. All of this is a matter of public record, not hard to find information, not obscure. I get that people are confused about 'whose land it was in the first place' because that has been the subject of arguments for a very long time. (But even that can be unraveled fairly simply by reading a history book.) But the ignorance of basic facts, while claiming absolute moral certainty, is really shocking to me.

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:38

wrongthinker · 04/10/2025 17:33

You are wrong. Look up the history. Israel withdrew from Gaza. I really don't know what else to tell you. It happened. It's a fact.

I know what you are referring to , but the area is still considered occupied by the UN (and Uk). You know this too.

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 17:39

I would like to see sanctions against Israel

Why do you think there aren't any?

Greenmouldycheese · 04/10/2025 17:41

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wrongthinker · 04/10/2025 17:42

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:38

I know what you are referring to , but the area is still considered occupied by the UN (and Uk). You know this too.

No, I don't. I know what the facts are. I prefer to stick to facts rather than ideologies. Israel withdrew from Gaza but yes, continued to supply aid such as food and electricity. Is that what's considered occupation? Maybe they should have just fucked off and left them to manage for themselves? Then I expect you'd be saying how evil they are for not feeding and looking after the people who want them dead.

Questionairballoon · 04/10/2025 17:44

I cannot stop gawping at the fact that someone here is saying Israel does not occupy Palestine! Even the Israeli government themselves don’t deny this.

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:49

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 17:39

I would like to see sanctions against Israel

Why do you think there aren't any?

Well there are some and I think there will be more especially on the selling weapons to Israel front.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 04/10/2025 17:51

BeNattyKoala · 04/10/2025 13:47

It's only debunked inside your own head, your argument that a poll of 18 months is outdated is ridiculous along with your assertion that they don't support Hamas anymore to stay alive makes them decent people - it doesn't make them decent and neither are you with your nonsensical arguments.

I agree why is she making nonsensical arguments

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:51

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I should report your post, but I won’t as it’s actually good to show visibility of such comments.

NototerrorismIntheUK · 04/10/2025 17:53

DrPrunesqualer · 04/10/2025 17:14

Of course they have.
We have a right to protest.
Without doing so our Governments and Governments around the world would think we agree with genocide

Our voices are crucial and we have a right to them.

So, without your chanting every Saturday Trump, The leaders in the Middle East, The entire EU, the UK etc al would have no idea there was a conflict going on. Deluded with a sense of grandeur. 🙄

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:53

Questionairballoon · 04/10/2025 17:44

I cannot stop gawping at the fact that someone here is saying Israel does not occupy Palestine! Even the Israeli government themselves don’t deny this.

never seen anything like this either.

sunflower1022 · 04/10/2025 17:53

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:51

I should report your post, but I won’t as it’s actually good to show visibility of such comments.

Yes, because her comment is the offensive one among all this nasty garbage being spouted on here!

Honestly 🙄

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 17:53

Israel, the state, is evil.

Do you think there might be a little more nuance to the situation than that?

After all Israel could wipe out Gaza pretty quickly if it wanted and yet..

I do feel for the innocent Palestinians, why do the other local Arab countries like Egypt not do more to help?

HaimishaPickle · 04/10/2025 17:55

HaimishaPickle · 04/10/2025 17:21

Ooh, a map!! I love maps.

Posted too soon. These maps, from historical records as opposed to Tiktok, show how closely the original proposed partition plan correlated with the areas of land that were Jewish owned, State land conceded to or used by Jews, Arab owned, State land conceded to or used by Arabs, unsettled State land and unregistered/undeveloped land.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 04/10/2025 17:56

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 13:23

I don’t think I can discuss anything with you as you are either not very knowledgeable or just deny the truth. Israeli soldiers have killed Palestinian children playing in their garden, on beaches, on their way to school. Please educate yourself.

It’s you that need educated badly.,

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:56

sunflower1022 · 04/10/2025 17:53

Yes, because her comment is the offensive one among all this nasty garbage being spouted on here!

Honestly 🙄

Where have I spouted nasty garbage? Tell me.

quantumbutterfly · 04/10/2025 17:56

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:12

Yes and I have asked for someone to spell out what I am saying in that post which is supportive of terrorist and no one can articulate it so let’s move on shall we?

It was spelled out for you. The phrase ' ........Palestinians up in a prison so they don’t get much chance to attack back except 7th October.'

Sounds very much like justification for the events of 7/10.

Iwantitidontwantit · 04/10/2025 17:58

TheNewWasp · 04/10/2025 00:07

Are you saying you don’t think the attack is in any way linked to the raging antisemitism expressed in those campaigns?

No, I think that any increase in Antisemitism is being caused directly by Israel committing a genocide, and before you tell me me Israel isn't Judaism, tell that to Netanyahu who expressly says it is.

Antisemitism is wrong, killing innocent people is wrong, but the collective murder of a civilian population with a land grab is abhorrent on a massive scale.

The Jewish community actually starts calling out the wrongs being committed by Israel rather than blindly supporting every single absolutely terrible thing they do

Iwantitidontwantit · 04/10/2025 17:59

No, I think that any increase in Antisemitism is being caused directly by Israel committing a genocide, and before you tell me me Israel isn't Judaism, tell that to Netanyahu who expressly says it is.

Antisemitism is wrong, killing innocent people is wrong, but the collective murder of a civilian population with a land grab is abhorrent on a massive scale.

The wider Jewish community needs to starts calling out the wrongs being committed by Israel, rather than blindly supporting every single absolutely terrible thing they do

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:59

quantumbutterfly · 04/10/2025 17:56

It was spelled out for you. The phrase ' ........Palestinians up in a prison so they don’t get much chance to attack back except 7th October.'

Sounds very much like justification for the events of 7/10.

Well it’s true that the Palestinians don’t have the same opportunists to attack Israel. Yes?
Did I say I want them to attack Israel? NO!

What I said is Israel has more blood on their hands. Had the Palestinians had the same opportunities, they would no doubt have the same amount of blood. Is this clear enough now? Yes? no?

Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 18:02

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 17:53

Israel, the state, is evil.

Do you think there might be a little more nuance to the situation than that?

After all Israel could wipe out Gaza pretty quickly if it wanted and yet..

I do feel for the innocent Palestinians, why do the other local Arab countries like Egypt not do more to help?

You'd have to ask Egypt.
It probably has something to do with the fact that Israel are in bed with the US though and and I don't imagine Egypt's prepared for war with either one of them, let alone both.

But no, I don't think it's terribly more nuanced. The things that have been said by Israeli leaders in regards to Gaza are nothing short of evil.
The same way that Hamas wanting to eradicate the Jews is evil.
Genocide is evil and those who commit genocide are evil.

Yes Israel could have wiped Palestine out but it wouldn't have suited the narrative that they have been presenting to the West to do so.

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ViolaPlains · 04/10/2025 18:06

Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 18:02

You'd have to ask Egypt.
It probably has something to do with the fact that Israel are in bed with the US though and and I don't imagine Egypt's prepared for war with either one of them, let alone both.

But no, I don't think it's terribly more nuanced. The things that have been said by Israeli leaders in regards to Gaza are nothing short of evil.
The same way that Hamas wanting to eradicate the Jews is evil.
Genocide is evil and those who commit genocide are evil.

Yes Israel could have wiped Palestine out but it wouldn't have suited the narrative that they have been presenting to the West to do so.

So it’s not a genocide?

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 18:06

It probably has something to do with the fact that Israel are in bed with the US though and and I don't imagine Egypt's prepared for war with either one of them, let alone both.

Only that reason? 🤔

But no, I don't think it's terribly more nuanced.

Clearly.

quantumbutterfly · 04/10/2025 18:07

Bananadramaa · 04/10/2025 17:59

Well it’s true that the Palestinians don’t have the same opportunists to attack Israel. Yes?
Did I say I want them to attack Israel? NO!

What I said is Israel has more blood on their hands. Had the Palestinians had the same opportunities, they would no doubt have the same amount of blood. Is this clear enough now? Yes? no?

Your views are crystal clear.

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 18:07

Yes Israel could have wiped Palestine out but it wouldn't have suited the narrative that they have been presenting to the West to do so

But I thought it was a genocide?

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