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Flags..

541 replies

Elephant9 · 28/08/2025 13:46

Just a chat to understand what’s going on with the influx of England and UJ flags all over the streets?

thoughts?
where did it stem from?
is it making you uncomfortable? (It is, me, but not entirely sure why)

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Dearnurse · 31/08/2025 01:15

I find it very annoying because it's not patriotism it's racists thinking they are clever by weaponising our flag ,it's awful small minded uneducated people .

intoFolklore · 31/08/2025 02:11

I think the England flag is very boring, the Union Jack less so. I think we really got the raw end of the deal when it comes to flags. Would be a lot cooler seeing them everywhere if they had a big dragon on like the Welsh flag.

As for the reason people are suddenly putting them up, it feels like it's to show they're anti immigration rather than patriotic. That makes me uncomfortable about it, which is probably gonna get me lynched on here since it seems a lot of MNers are right leaning but hey ho. If all these people just wanted to fly a flag, they would have been doing so for years.

R0ckandHardPlace · 31/08/2025 07:03

Jumpingthruhoops · 31/08/2025 00:46

I'm guessing, if people weren't so 'offended' by our national flag in the first place, this takeover wouldn't have happened.

People never were offended by the flag, It’s a myth that racists have got into their stupid heads.

But now those racists are full of hatred and going round flying the flag (and vandalising) in an aggressive display of anger, so people are now feeling a bit scared of the flag rather than offended. We’re not scared on the flag, we’re scared of the racists and what they’re capable of next.

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 07:24

BatchCookBabe · 30/08/2025 23:05

You can keep saying that, 'oh but it's fine to fly the English flag, just not spamming them everywhere, like mini roundabouts and the like.' But the left have always complained about the ENGLISH flying ENGLAND flags, (before all of this flag stuff started!) calling them nasty names like bigot, racist, and flag shaggers.

Don't pretend this is not true because it is. Don't backpedal now and say 'but... but, proper England flags on proper flagpoles are OK.' Just don't. Not when the left has been bashing anyone who flies an England flag, ever since I can remember!

I'm not repeating myself again. Fact is, the left have always bashed anyone flying ENGLAND flags. Not any other country, just ENGLAND, because it's sooooo fashionable to bash the English. 🙄 As I said, don't pretend this is the first time anyone has whinged about the England flag being shown, and it's only 'all the England flags on mini roundabouts, and on various signs' that are causing issues.

Who is this mythical 'the left' you speak of?

I'm sorry to tell you (well not that sorry) that NOBODY is bothered about the English flag flying. They have flown on town halls and municipal buildings and on private property for years. Decades.

Nobody is offended by a flag. It's just laughable to suggest so.

Stop listening to Uncle Nigel and do some thinking for yourself because you sound ridiculous.

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 07:25

Jumpingthruhoops · 31/08/2025 00:46

I'm guessing, if people weren't so 'offended' by our national flag in the first place, this takeover wouldn't have happened.

Offended by a flag 🥴

As I've just said nobody is offended by a flag.

They're offended by racist simpletons on a ladder up a lampost

BlueJuniper94 · 31/08/2025 07:28

SleeplessInWherever · 30/08/2025 19:05

A PP has recently posted an image of a Chinese takeaway, with racial abuse painted onto it, and an instruction to go home.

Expressing love for their country. Pull the other.

I thought we were discussing flags not racist graffiti? You also clearly didn't read my post.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/08/2025 08:05

BlueJuniper94 · 31/08/2025 07:28

I thought we were discussing flags not racist graffiti? You also clearly didn't read my post.

May I present… a painted St George’s Cross. A flag. With some superiority racist graffiti.

Well. It’s supposed to be anyway.

I did read your post. The flag people are not politely expressing a love for their country, they’re expressing that they don’t wish to share it.

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ilovesooty · 31/08/2025 08:37

I think I read yesterday that rail services were disrupted by people trying to hang flags from bridges. I don't see how anyone can endorse that behaviour.

SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:11

ilovesooty · 31/08/2025 08:37

I think I read yesterday that rail services were disrupted by people trying to hang flags from bridges. I don't see how anyone can endorse that behaviour.

Pics or it didn't happen

ilovesooty · 31/08/2025 09:24

SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:11

Pics or it didn't happen

I did see a picture when I read the story. I'm on holiday and I can't be bothered to to look for it again. I couldn't care less about whether you believe it happened.

SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:27

Knew I could count on you to pop up with some anti flag evidence. Do you spend all your time compiling a dossier of facts and figures against patriotic people? Perhaps if you spent less time doing that you might actually see what is really going on in our towns. Enjoy spending your Sunday trying to down play people's real life experiences and concerns.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 31/08/2025 09:31

SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:27

Knew I could count on you to pop up with some anti flag evidence. Do you spend all your time compiling a dossier of facts and figures against patriotic people? Perhaps if you spent less time doing that you might actually see what is really going on in our towns. Enjoy spending your Sunday trying to down play people's real life experiences and concerns.

hanging flags from railway bridges is dangerous.

disrupting trains is being an arsehole

hang flags on lampposts or benches or on flagpoles or on the sides of buildings or wherever else that itsnt dangerous or disruptive

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 09:46

SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:27

Knew I could count on you to pop up with some anti flag evidence. Do you spend all your time compiling a dossier of facts and figures against patriotic people? Perhaps if you spent less time doing that you might actually see what is really going on in our towns. Enjoy spending your Sunday trying to down play people's real life experiences and concerns.

Why are people who are against racists putting up flags not real life concerns?

I'm fed up of these people talking about 'real concerns' of 'normal British people' as if they hold the monopoly on what a 'real' British person can feel.

No, you're not speaking for 'normal' British people and not 'every' British person thinks like you

RufustheFactualReindeer · 31/08/2025 09:49

Knew I could count on you to pop up with some anti flag evidence

you didn’t seem to be able to google so that poster stepped in 🤷🏻

’pictures or it didn’t happen’

pictures provided

’anti flag, against patriotic people, downplaying peoples concerns 😭’

BatchCookBabe · 31/08/2025 09:54

Dearnurse · 31/08/2025 01:15

I find it very annoying because it's not patriotism it's racists thinking they are clever by weaponising our flag ,it's awful small minded uneducated people .

My bingo card is full. 🏠

HangryLikeTheHulk · 31/08/2025 09:56

The faces of the flag enthusiasts.

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SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:59

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 09:46

Why are people who are against racists putting up flags not real life concerns?

I'm fed up of these people talking about 'real concerns' of 'normal British people' as if they hold the monopoly on what a 'real' British person can feel.

No, you're not speaking for 'normal' British people and not 'every' British person thinks like you

I'm fed up of people who live in their own little bubble who haven't experienced the hell that is going on in far too many of our towns and cities because of these hotel residents. The people who have now been moved onto our residential streets in the multiple HMO's that are now popping up as the hotels closed. You and the rest of the people who insult any who dares to fly a flag or show concern, also do not speak for every British person, you do not know how we feel. If we want to fly flags we will, and you don't want to nobody is forcing you to. That's part of the whole reason people feel proud to be British. You are allowed to have different views and opinions without being persecuted for it. Perhaps you should try showing us the same respect you show the people you think are made to feel uncomfortable by our flags.

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 10:00

BatchCookBabe · 31/08/2025 09:54

My bingo card is full. 🏠

Well done you win a Lefty membership card congratulations!

BatchCookBabe · 31/08/2025 10:02

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 10:00

Well done you win a Lefty membership card congratulations!

I'll pass ta. I'd rather boil my head than be one of those. ^

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 10:10

BatchCookBabe · 31/08/2025 10:02

I'll pass ta. I'd rather boil my head than be one of those. ^

But you get to live a life with compassion and thoughtfulness and looking out for others... You should try it you'll just feel the hate evaporate from your body!

BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 10:11

SanityLeftTheChat · 31/08/2025 09:59

I'm fed up of people who live in their own little bubble who haven't experienced the hell that is going on in far too many of our towns and cities because of these hotel residents. The people who have now been moved onto our residential streets in the multiple HMO's that are now popping up as the hotels closed. You and the rest of the people who insult any who dares to fly a flag or show concern, also do not speak for every British person, you do not know how we feel. If we want to fly flags we will, and you don't want to nobody is forcing you to. That's part of the whole reason people feel proud to be British. You are allowed to have different views and opinions without being persecuted for it. Perhaps you should try showing us the same respect you show the people you think are made to feel uncomfortable by our flags.

You know nothing about me or what I've experienced. Again, you do not speak for 'normal' British people, you do not hold the monopoly on that.

BatchCookBabe · 31/08/2025 10:12

Also... @HangryLikeTheHulk

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/jun/1/lefts-ranks-filled-angry-bitter-women-seduced-lies/

We can all find something to suit our argument mate. Wink