Flags..

[Elephant9]

Just a chat to understand what’s going on with the influx of England and UJ flags all over the streets?

thoughts?
where did it stem from?
is it making you uncomfortable? (It is, me, but not entirely sure why)

Exactly this. This thread is crammed full of posters trying to make out that it's only NOW that the England flag is offensive, when we all know that they have been crowing about it and bashing people who fly it for decades now. Crying bigot, racist, flagshagger, thick as mince, and all sorts of nasty names to anyone who dares to fly one.

This was WAAAAY before any of this 'paint and fly the England flags all over the place' stuff. They are kidding no-one by pretending that their complaints about the England flag has only just started - with their 'no-one minds the England flag being flown 'properly...' Errrrr, yeah actually the left DO 'mind,' and HAVE 'minded' for a long time! Stop trying to kid us. 😆

I have not painted any anywhere and I don't fly one, but I am not fussed if other people do, because I can see why they are doing it. And the attiitude of some on here, and the vile names they keep calling people is one of the reasons WHY people are doing it, and will keep doing it.

Sadly, for the left, it's not illegal to fly the England flag, though I know they would love it to be, so it's not gonna stop anytime soon.

And now I'm out. Got better things to fo on a sunny Sunday!

Jesus Christ NOBODY has ever been offended by a flag flying 😂😂😂😂

It's like a fairy tale with you lot

Did you actually even bother to read my comment or just think oh racist flag shagger, I'll make my own mind up about what it says. I said nobody can speak for every or the normal British person and that we are all allowed an opinion.

Considering the hate and insults that have been spewed on these threads towards any who you deem to be racist, calling us angry hate filled agressive knuckle draggers, it appears to be anti flag people who are that way inclined. The agression you all have towards anyone who doesn't want to accept that your views are the only way is laughable.

You are entitled to your thoughts on the whole situation, as am I and everybody else in the country. It doesn't mean that any are more right than the other.

And neither do you.

I never claimed to 🫠

Neither has anyone else. Yet you jump down the throat of anyone else who has a different experience to you claiming they dont speak for you or anyone else.

No I'm just commenting on how on every vox pop I see every single person is claiming they are there on behalf on 'normal British people' and that's just not true

Racists: “You can’t even fly our flag anymore because Muslims are offended”.

Everyone else: What? No one has said that. Nobody is offended. Look, even Muslim taxi drivers are flying the George cross on their taxis for the Euros”.

Racists: “But you can’t say ‘Easter’ anymore in case it offends people. They’ve stopped putting ‘Easter’ on Easter egg boxes”.

Everyone else: No they haven’t! Look at these Easter eggs. They literally ALL have “Happy Easter” on the box.

Racists: We’re going to fly and paint flags EVERYWHERE just to show that we won’t be cowed by everyone who says we can’t fly our flag.

Everyone else: Nobody has said you can’t fly a flag, or is offended by the flag. 😩

I give up, crack on with your flags you loonies.

People never were offended by the flag, It’s a myth that racists have got into their stupid heads.

This is rubbish and you know it. But OK.

Prove it.

Sorry, am I supposed to know who you are!? 😂😂

Every racist right winger on here demands proof, which pps have given over and over. Yet you make ridiculous claims and in true Reform fashion, cannot ever back them up with examples.

I’ll say it again. The only places that people have been offended by our flag are on Twitter, in the imaginations of your right-wing bubble.

We have flags all over the town centre. Fortunately the racist banner that accompanied them has been removed (and replaced by a dozen flags along railings.

I thought we'd escaped on the edge of town, but no, this morning a couple of blokes were out hanging flags halfway up every telegraph pole into town.

There is nothing joyful and celebratory about these flags.

The reason people are circumspect is nothing to do with lack of patriotism but the fact that for years, our flag has been hijacked by football thugs, the BNP, the National Front, violent skinhead racist nobs.

We could 'take our flag back', but this is not what's happening. It's not being flown to celebrate anything, it's being flown to divide, not bring people together.

I would like the telegraph pole flags taken down, but tbh am not brave enough to do so for fear of the abusive backlash. A lady in town did ask them not to put a flag outside her house, very politely, but was abused, filmed and the film posted on social media mocking her (most responses mention 'karen' 🙄). So the preferences for those who don't want the flags are ignored.

We have flags in the town, flown permanently near the war memorial, and the St George cross flown on the church tower on occasion.

And for all the notions of patriotism, I noticed the Daily Express headline in the supermarket this morning :
https://www.express.co.uk/ourpaper

I'm not the one demanding proof, you are. Hope that helps.

I know, because you made a ridiculous claim that you can’t back up. I was giving you the chance to explain your assertions, rather than just looking like an idiot.

Racists: “Ew, pride flags everywhere, it’s virtue signalling political woke madness”

…festoons estate lamp posts with England flags (the ones with England actually written on), covers their house AND VAN with poppies and silhouettes of WW1 soldiers with WW2 aircraft flying over them…

It's not that I can't back it up... more that I dont want or need to back it up for any random on the Internet who demands it. Have a nice day.

If you could back it up then you would have done

i think that some people will have always had a problem with the st george flag, most people would not have had a problem with it…..but some of those now have a problem with it

and thats fine thats their prerogative

Funny isn't it how people are being asked for proof of anything they say if the holier than thou left deem you to be a racist yet they can make as many claims as they like and don't expect to be challenged.

they can make as many claims as they like and don't expect to be challenged

why aren’t you able to challenge them?

Tbh, people are challenged all the time. It's easier to believe their statements if they have some evidence to back it up with, otherwise it's just opinion/untruths.

The far-right think they have been so clever with their little campaign, as they can just bleat about 'national pride' and ask 'what's wrong with the English flag?'.

It's a poor attempt at gaslighting, and some of the replies this thread are a perfect example.

I find it bizarre that so many of these far-right types think as a 'leftie' that I'm offended or hate the flag. I literally went to the World Cup draped in the St Georges Cross and face painted it on my family. I hang Union Jack bunting out for national events like the Jubilee or VE Day. I think it's lovely driving through market towns seeing it flying on village greens or churches.

Using paint to stick St Georges crosses over roundabouts or on the sides of public property just looks awful and it's clearly being done by thugs who seem to actually want to offend rather than as any sort of national pride. I get it though, they are angry at the state of the country but honestly, what do people expect when you have 14 years of austerity, Brexit and a pandemic.

What riles me the most is the ease with which people have been persuaded that the “problem” is immigrants & asylum seekers.

Spot on.

But the right wing media now has the working class worshipping the rich and lamenting the fact they might leave the country if we dare to talk about taxing them more 🙄