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Racist Threads

287 replies

PhilippaGeorgiou · 27/08/2025 13:11

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought AIBU would be ok. I am not running this as a poll, because I don't care about anyones opinions on the matter. And if anyone wants to respond with more racism, don't bother because I won't be engaging for even a second.

Right at the moment this site is not being overrun by racists because MNHQ has determined that there are no racists on the site and it's abuse to tell anyone they are a racist (even when they are). However, there are multiple threads expressing racism every single day, all rehearsing the same old misinformation and bogus narratives. Not one of those posters want to engage - they become abusive and offensive if anyone produces remotely evidenced facts. Their "facts" are the only truthful facts. Everyone else is a "woman hating woke leftist". Which is apparently not abus, according to MNHQ. MNHQ have made is abundantly clear that they will not moderate misinformation, and are blithely happy to allow most abuse to stand.

Here's the thing - there's pretty much nobody on those threads that is genuinely interested in having a discussion or debating information. There is nobody jumping on those threads saying that they don't really understand the different views and positions and would like to know more. Unsurprising, anyone who actually wants to explore the issue, the absolute last place to look to do that would be yet another toxic thread here. Probably the only good thing is that it really is highly unlikely anyone with a real curiousity about the subject would look to form opinions based on the toxic formula of MN.

The only thing that these threads are good for is clicks and ££££'s in the bank for Justine and the site.

So anti-racists - I suggest that we all stop answering these threads altogether. I know it is hard to see the racism stand (although apparently not for the owners of the site or the moderators) unchallenged, but every single challange does nothing but feed the flames and earn money for MN. You all know that the people who are not racists will spend 20% of their posts posting misinformation and 80% posting goady barbs and personal insults, just to keep the threads going. It will be incredibly boring for them if they only have each other to talk to. The threads will die without oxygen. And MN makes no money out of clicks that haven't happened. It's a win all around.

And if you want to do something proactive, instead of engaging with people who aren't going to listen, why not raise your concerns about the racism with the advertisers? They are being associated with it by their presence, and are clearly far more likely to influence the owners of the site than the people posting on it.

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nomas · 27/08/2025 19:48

JollyUmberDeer · 27/08/2025 19:47

Do you speak for all minorities?

Does anyone speak for everyone?

ilovesooty · 27/08/2025 19:49

SerafinasGoose · 27/08/2025 18:07

I'm also sorry to hear it. You'll be missed. Your own wellbeing comes first but I for one hope to see you back once some of the craziness has ebbed. 🌺

Me too.

JollyUmberDeer · 27/08/2025 19:49

Lndnmummy · 27/08/2025 19:36

I think your normal and my normal are two very different normals tbh.

I absolutely do feel the need to show black and brown people that I SEE them and their experiences.

That sounds very infantilising. What makes you think they want to be seen anymore than anyone else of any other ethnicity. What makes you think they don’t just want to be treated like everyone else, just like a normal person, rather than a pet project for a hobby anti racist.

nomas · 27/08/2025 19:51

JollyUmberDeer · 27/08/2025 19:49

That sounds very infantilising. What makes you think they want to be seen anymore than anyone else of any other ethnicity. What makes you think they don’t just want to be treated like everyone else, just like a normal person, rather than a pet project for a hobby anti racist.

As a BAME person, I’m glad that @Lndnmummy is an ally.

JollyUmberDeer · 27/08/2025 19:51

nomas · 27/08/2025 19:48

Does anyone speak for everyone?

You proclaim to know what ‘BAME’ people are thinking and supposedly fearing. Quite a claim.

nomas · 27/08/2025 19:52

JollyUmberDeer · 27/08/2025 19:51

You proclaim to know what ‘BAME’ people are thinking and supposedly fearing. Quite a claim.

I am BAME, I know how my friends and family and colleagues and neighbours are feeling.

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:52

You seem to also be doing that.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2025 19:52

I think this is a good example of the sort of thing that people shouldn't bother responding to.

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:53

And anyway, there have literally been posters on this very thread who are BME who have told us how they feel. Hope you are OK with that.

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:53

None of us can see each other . It's interesting that random three names is making assumptions.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 27/08/2025 19:55

I'll be glad when it starts raining.

Lonelycrab · 27/08/2025 19:57

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:53

None of us can see each other . It's interesting that random three names is making assumptions.

I think it’s best to ignore usernames that have next to zero posting history.

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:57

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 27/08/2025 19:55

I'll be glad when it starts raining.

Pissed it down here today for all of 25 minutes. The cat looked very confused.

Lemintonic · 27/08/2025 19:58

WhereIsMyJumper · 27/08/2025 17:13

The irony when this post is so ignorant

Please explain the irony. Two teeth Trevor painting on roundabouts and shouting 'piss off ragheads', and his mates are definitely women's rugby supporters then, and that is why they do it?

PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 19:58

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:53

And anyway, there have literally been posters on this very thread who are BME who have told us how they feel. Hope you are OK with that.

Yep.

And pp would also do very well to remember that many families are diverse and many people have more that one heritage. They should be wary of making sweeping assumptions about posters.

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 19:59

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 27/08/2025 19:55

I'll be glad when it starts raining.

Rained a bit here earlier. Not enough to rescue my crispy dried up lawn though.

BurntBroccoli · 27/08/2025 19:59

Fizzer5 · 27/08/2025 18:21

@SpidersAreShitheads in your reply to @tee you say "some people think we shouldn't take anymore asylum seekers".
Given the problems we have with our economy. That would be beneficial for nearly all of us don't you think?
Our energy bills will increase, announced this afternoon.

They’ll increase a heck of a lot more if Reform get in and ban renewable energy expansion (and the infrastructure needed).

We are just making good progress in becoming an energy independent country. One day last month was powered mainly by wind! I think that’s amazing!

nomas · 27/08/2025 20:00

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 19:59

Rained a bit here earlier. Not enough to rescue my crispy dried up lawn though.

Yes, a desultory drizzle here too.

Lonelycrab · 27/08/2025 20:01

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 19:57

Pissed it down here today for all of 25 minutes. The cat looked very confused.

Crossing my fingers it will go absolutely biblical with the rainfall on sept 13th🤞🤞🤞

After all my garden probably needs it, and it’ll save us a fortune in policing bills for us too…

PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 20:01

Lashed it down earlier here, then the sun came back out.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 27/08/2025 20:02

Lemintonic · 27/08/2025 19:58

Please explain the irony. Two teeth Trevor painting on roundabouts and shouting 'piss off ragheads', and his mates are definitely women's rugby supporters then, and that is why they do it?

Two teeth Trevor made me laugh and usually very little to laugh at on these threads.
What's going on needs to be challenged.

PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 20:02

Lonelycrab · 27/08/2025 19:57

I think it’s best to ignore usernames that have next to zero posting history.

Argh, missed that!

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 20:04

My cat can't decide whether to retreat to the spare bedroom where he spends the colder months or carry on lounging about in the garden.

CharlotteRumpling · 27/08/2025 20:05

I won't accept posts about cats without pictures of said cats. What is the world coming to?

PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 20:11

Can I just say, and I know this will incur some wrath, I quite like a cheese scone.

I feel better for getting that off my chest.