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The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

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EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 23:25

Tg. I hope it sticks.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 23/06/2025 23:31

EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 23:25

Tg. I hope it sticks.

Me too. Can't shake the feeling that the whole thing has had an undertone of farce though.

And Trump and his wretched God blessing makes my teeth itch.

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Ilovelifeverymuch · 23/06/2025 23:48

MistressoftheDarkSide · 23/06/2025 23:12

Trump has just announced a ceasefire to begin in approximately 6 hours when both sides have "wound down and completed their in progress final missions" and in 24 hours the 12 day war will be over.

And he's God blessing everyone.

It's on his Truth Social thing.

🥴

This was how I expected it to go.

Iran will retaliate symbolically, they sent missiles to the US base after giving the US the warning to avoid any causalities. This allows the Iranian regime to claim they hit the evil Satan and shout death to America etc then they will come back to the table.

Iran knows they have no chance against the US and Israel, I mean they don't have a chance against Israel alone not to talk of both countries.

The Ayatollah will also be concerned about increasing anti regime sentiment in Iran which may lead to them being toppled like Assad so they will prefer to choose the better of two bad options, negotiate. The heir to the Iranian Shah in exile has started making noise about coming back which may lead to agitation within Iran for change.

It was obvious neither Russia nor China will enter a war with the US for Iran, Iran is just not worth it. Also Iran's terrorists associates are all weak with Hezbollah announcing they will not be joining the war. Hamas and the Houthis are also weakened by Israeli attacks.

The attack on the base is not new, they did the same a few years ago when the US killed their top general, they shot missiles at a US base that damaged some parts of the base, injured some people but no casualties and acted like they got revenge, they need to keep face to appear strong.

I do hope the ceasefire holds and they can reach a lasting agreement. Frankly I would prefer that the regime falls and Iran can be liberated but that's a decision for the Iranian people not the US.

Lifesd · 24/06/2025 00:14

Snakebite61 · 23/06/2025 21:36

The only threats to the west are right wing politics, trump and Israel.

And aren’t you lucky to live in a democratic society which lets you express those views, vote against them and live a free life. I only wish the same for people in regimes such as Iran.

LBFseBrom · 24/06/2025 00:31

Lifesd · 24/06/2025 00:14

And aren’t you lucky to live in a democratic society which lets you express those views, vote against them and live a free life. I only wish the same for people in regimes such as Iran.

We all want that. They had it at one point but the USA and UK got rid of the democratic leader and installed the Shah.

Bombing Iran will not bring democracy, it will make them angry.

Dryeroo · 24/06/2025 00:40

Trump has announced a ceasefire between Iran and Israel. Iran has apparently confirmed. Hope this is true.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/06/2025 00:49

Dryeroo · 24/06/2025 00:40

Trump has announced a ceasefire between Iran and Israel. Iran has apparently confirmed. Hope this is true.

🙏

Lifesd · 24/06/2025 01:12

LBFseBrom · 24/06/2025 00:31

We all want that. They had it at one point but the USA and UK got rid of the democratic leader and installed the Shah.

Bombing Iran will not bring democracy, it will make them angry.

Yes everything is the fault of the dreadful west.

It makes me angry that Iran is funding terrorist sleeper cells in the UK, and if you want to look at recent history I would say that appeasement can only go so far.

PoopingAllTheWay · 24/06/2025 01:33

Lets hope they all stick to the ceasefire

Im waiting for the ‘Aren't i great, this would of continued without me for years,
From Trump

mrsrtobinson · 24/06/2025 05:28

Snakebite61 · 23/06/2025 21:36

The only threats to the west are right wing politics, trump and Israel.

I disagree.

The biggest threat to Western civilisation is Radical Islam, and believe it or not, on that issue Putin is on our side.

Putin has his own problems with the Chechin Rebels (who are linked to Al Qaeda.and have mounted terrorist attacks inside Russia)

JessaWoo · 24/06/2025 05:46

After much confusion about the supposed start time of the ceasefire, that time has come and gone with Iran still firing missiles into Israel.

MushMonster · 24/06/2025 05:48

Woke up to a Ceasefire!
Those are great hopefull news.
As per usual some people in ME do not get the full meaning of ceasefire..... and some missiles have been exchanged. Fingers crossed they can all keep their hands in their pockets!

JessaWoo · 24/06/2025 05:52

Iran has now ceased and sent a message over state TV channels stating that.

Israel apparently now has 12 hours to fire at will.

Weird.

JessaWoo · 24/06/2025 05:58

MushMonster · 24/06/2025 05:48

Woke up to a Ceasefire!
Those are great hopefull news.
As per usual some people in ME do not get the full meaning of ceasefire..... and some missiles have been exchanged. Fingers crossed they can all keep their hands in their pockets!

I think - I could be incorrect - that Iran was exercising their right to fire upon Israel for a certain amount of time, as Israel could be doing for the next 12 hours to Iran. After this time = war over.

Im not sure, as it’s a really strange set of terms and Trump wrote them in his usual garbled manner.

Coolasfeck · 24/06/2025 06:15

So how long is the world going to tolerate Trump causing conflict, getting people killed, and forcing governments across the world to divert funds from much needed social programmes to defence spending? This is all in order for him to announce a ‘ceasefire’ so he can get a Nobel Peace prize because Obama got one?

The world is being controlled by a crazy Mafia don who sends goons in to smash up shops and demand ‘protection’ money.

HellsBalls · 24/06/2025 06:20

So how long is the world going to tolerate Iran funding terrorism, getting people murdered, and forcing governments across the world to divert funds from much needed social programmes to defence spending?

HellsBalls · 24/06/2025 06:29

OK, war is over. Get back to complaining about Israel on the Gaza threads.

Coolasfeck · 24/06/2025 06:31

HellsBalls · 24/06/2025 06:20

So how long is the world going to tolerate Iran funding terrorism, getting people murdered, and forcing governments across the world to divert funds from much needed social programmes to defence spending?

3/10 for the whataboutarry. My point stands.

Trump does not give a fuck about the Iranian threat - if he did he would have kept Obama’s agreement with them in place. Instead he tore it up and here we are.

The wars, the tariffs etc are to create chaos and market volatility which he and his crime gang can profit from.

mrsrtobinson · 24/06/2025 06:40

Coolasfeck · 24/06/2025 06:31

3/10 for the whataboutarry. My point stands.

Trump does not give a fuck about the Iranian threat - if he did he would have kept Obama’s agreement with them in place. Instead he tore it up and here we are.

The wars, the tariffs etc are to create chaos and market volatility which he and his crime gang can profit from.

You are misinformed about the Obama deal with Iran. It was a bad deal. That's why Trump ripped it up.

The biggest myth about the Iran Nuclear Agreement is that it will prevent
Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. In fact—by trading permanent concessions for temporary benefits—President Obama has assured that Iran will have an internationally recognized capability to quickly produce enough material for multiple nuclear weapons in 10 to 15 years. That is if Iran does not
cheat.

foreignaffairs.house.gov/files/04_HFAC%20-%20IRAN%20-%20Myths%20and%20Facts.pdf

Coolasfeck · 24/06/2025 06:49

mrsrtobinson · 24/06/2025 06:40

You are misinformed about the Obama deal with Iran. It was a bad deal. That's why Trump ripped it up.

The biggest myth about the Iran Nuclear Agreement is that it will prevent
Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. In fact—by trading permanent concessions for temporary benefits—President Obama has assured that Iran will have an internationally recognized capability to quickly produce enough material for multiple nuclear weapons in 10 to 15 years. That is if Iran does not
cheat.

foreignaffairs.house.gov/files/04_HFAC%20-%20IRAN%20-%20Myths%20and%20Facts.pdf

You’ve revealed your agenda so I won’t waste time responding any further. If I do you’ll come back with something about ‘Hillary’s emails’ or ‘Hunter Bidens laptop’.

mrsrtobinson · 24/06/2025 06:53

Coolasfeck · 24/06/2025 06:49

You’ve revealed your agenda so I won’t waste time responding any further. If I do you’ll come back with something about ‘Hillary’s emails’ or ‘Hunter Bidens laptop’.

Please yourself 🙂

Thegreyhound · 24/06/2025 06:54

mrsrtobinson · 24/06/2025 05:28

I disagree.

The biggest threat to Western civilisation is Radical Islam, and believe it or not, on that issue Putin is on our side.

Putin has his own problems with the Chechin Rebels (who are linked to Al Qaeda.and have mounted terrorist attacks inside Russia)

Threat to Western civilisation ? In what way? Currently I would argue that the biggest threats to Western civilisation are creeping fascism all over the place, Trump, Netanyahu and the billionaire autocracy. Radical Islam comes a long way down the list in terms of its influence and the harm it can do to daily life. Western civilisation is doing a good enough job of destroying itself, or at least hollowing itself out.

rainingsnoring · 24/06/2025 06:54

MistressoftheDarkSide · 23/06/2025 23:31

Me too. Can't shake the feeling that the whole thing has had an undertone of farce though.

And Trump and his wretched God blessing makes my teeth itch.

I agree that there is an element of farce. I did see a comment on X that the agreement was made between US and Iran and that was lots of money making going on wrt the oil market. Not unlikely!

It is a relief to see a ceasefire but, sadly, I don't it will stick. Let's hope it does!