Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

807 replies

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

OP posts:
Thread gallery
20
Buffs · 23/06/2025 19:09

The orange buffoon was played by Netanyahu. I imagine the Iranians will now be thinking this wouldn’t have happened if they’d had a nuclear weapon which I imagine they will soon acquire from their Russian friends.

rainingsnoring · 23/06/2025 19:12

Hopefully, cool Iranian heads will prevail and not escalate this further.
I agree with @Buffs that the risk of them making a nuclear weapon longer term is now higher.

PoopingAllTheWay · 23/06/2025 19:16

Catsandcheese · 23/06/2025 18:55

Qatar has said they reserve the right to respond, so who knows.
I imagine Trump will look like a fool if he doesn’t retaliate now.

Retaliate? This was Iran retaliating
Trump now needs to put a line under it and say enough now

Trump will not look like a fool at all !
NO country wants Trump to react negatively to this

Catsandcheese · 23/06/2025 19:20

PoopingAllTheWay · 23/06/2025 19:16

Retaliate? This was Iran retaliating
Trump now needs to put a line under it and say enough now

Trump will not look like a fool at all !
NO country wants Trump to react negatively to this

Yep and that might be what a sane president would do. But he is not a sane president and he us terrified of looking weak. These are US airbases after all

Buffs · 23/06/2025 19:22

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 02:50

Bombing this sites is in line with US policy that Iran can not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. He gave Iran the chance to negotiate and they dragged the talks until things eslxates with Israel. Even after the attacks started he still left the door open for talks which the UK and EU leaders tried to meditate over the past few days which didn't go anywhere so the decision was take advantage of the current situation where the Iranian regime is on the back foot and weak and strike a decisive blow to their nuclear ambitions once and for all or stay out and we deals with this in another year or two.

Israel has show it can defeat Iran with all their bluster but only the US has the capability to destroy the nuclear sites which are built deep underground with the use of the buster bomb, and only the US has a plane which can deliver the bomb, the B2 bomber.

So yes you can argue that seriously damaging Iran's nuclear ambition is actually America first. He made it very clear when he opened the doors to negotiate with Iran that they will NOT be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Who knows maybe the bloody regime will fall and Iranians can rebuild their country.

Iran's allies the terrorists groups that they sponsor are all weakend, Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthis so they are very weak right now, they will bluster and shout and maybe attack a US base in Iraq or something just to save face then stfu.

Edited

When the orange buffoon talks about America first he actually means Trump first. I say this as an American.

PoopingAllTheWay · 23/06/2025 19:43

Buffs · 23/06/2025 19:22

When the orange buffoon talks about America first he actually means Trump first. I say this as an American.

Oh its The Trump show for sure

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 19:47

I think this is a bit of a show or face saving from Iran.
How many missiles did they fling at Israel last weekend? Multiple waves of 60 at a time ( happy to be corrected) so 300 a night?
And tonight only 6 at the ‘American devils’?
Against an air base with the very latest air defenses? Smells of gesturing.
Hopefully that’s it for tonight, and the Americans don’t retaliate, or if they do, it’s just against military infrastructure.
Would be better for Iran, and the world, if Iran reins it in and doesn’t persist in irritating the region.
No doubt the Israelis have moles in the Iranian military.

Totalk · 23/06/2025 19:50

GentleSheep · 22/06/2025 01:46

Not really. There were definitely nuclear plants enriching uranium (they got to 88%) and with their regime's philosophy of hatred towards Israel they weren't far off having a nuclear weapon. If the bombs dropped did the job properly (I suppose there will be images of some kind coming out) then there will be no chance of them carrying on with their program at all. They'd have to start all over again.

....and why is Iran not allowed to have nuclear capability when Israel possess nuclear bomb. Israel is a threat to the middle east. Its on a killing spree. Its not satisfied by killing innocent children in Gaza and has now moved its attention to killing innocent civilians in Iran.

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 20:03

@Totalk “and why is Iran not allowed to have nuclear capability when Israel possess nuclear bomb.”

Because Iran is ran by Muslim extremists that have vowed to destroy Israel, and even had a fucking clock ticking down to that day.
You can’t negotiate with those type of people.

Totalk · 23/06/2025 20:08

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 20:03

@Totalk “and why is Iran not allowed to have nuclear capability when Israel possess nuclear bomb.”

Because Iran is ran by Muslim extremists that have vowed to destroy Israel, and even had a fucking clock ticking down to that day.
You can’t negotiate with those type of people.

Sorry did you say muslim ex.. are you racist|? Israel is not only a terrorist but a zionist and genocidal country. Full stop!! You are a swearing racist and I do not want to engage in conversation any further with a vile.

MushMonster · 23/06/2025 20:10

PoopingAllTheWay · 23/06/2025 19:16

Retaliate? This was Iran retaliating
Trump now needs to put a line under it and say enough now

Trump will not look like a fool at all !
NO country wants Trump to react negatively to this

I agree with you that we do not want him to retaliate, but I can think of someone who does and will heavily influence him to do so. And that is Netanyahu. Netanyahu wants US to carry out his war.

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 20:35

Totalk · 23/06/2025 20:08

Sorry did you say muslim ex.. are you racist|? Israel is not only a terrorist but a zionist and genocidal country. Full stop!! You are a swearing racist and I do not want to engage in conversation any further with a vile.

Have you forgotten ISIS?

Xenia · 23/06/2025 20:57

Well all know the threats from ISIS and its ilk. The UK has its enemies - check the sanctions lists if not sure and Iran is pretty high up.Iran is one of our greatest foes which mean us harm.

PoopingAllTheWay · 23/06/2025 21:13

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 20:03

@Totalk “and why is Iran not allowed to have nuclear capability when Israel possess nuclear bomb.”

Because Iran is ran by Muslim extremists that have vowed to destroy Israel, and even had a fucking clock ticking down to that day.
You can’t negotiate with those type of people.

So what Israel is doing is ok?

Snakebite61 · 23/06/2025 21:36

Lifesd · 22/06/2025 01:30

Good I hope the operation has been successful and irans nuclear capability has been destroyed. Iran is a threat to the west - I don’t think we should be involved in regime change (particularly after disastrous interventions in Lebanon and Syria but I support this action.

The only threats to the west are right wing politics, trump and Israel.

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 22:18

PoopingAllTheWay · 23/06/2025 21:13

So what Israel is doing is ok?

Do you think that Iran’s vow to destroy Israel, and every Jew in the world, is ok?

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 22:19

Snakebite61 · 23/06/2025 21:36

The only threats to the west are right wing politics, trump and Israel.

And Islamist extremism.

Thegreyhound · 23/06/2025 22:20

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 20:03

@Totalk “and why is Iran not allowed to have nuclear capability when Israel possess nuclear bomb.”

Because Iran is ran by Muslim extremists that have vowed to destroy Israel, and even had a fucking clock ticking down to that day.
You can’t negotiate with those type of people.

Israel is currently run by fanatical far right lunatics who believe that some lives are worth less than zero and have spent two years proving it. But they have nuclear weapons (made in secret and lied about for decades)

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 23/06/2025 22:20

Snakebite61 · 23/06/2025 21:36

The only threats to the west are right wing politics, trump and Israel.

Oh, where were you when 9/11 happened? Off orbiting Pluto?

MissConductUS · 23/06/2025 22:23

HellsBalls · 23/06/2025 22:19

And Islamist extremism.

And an expansionist Russia.

EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 22:38

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 23/06/2025 22:20

Oh, where were you when 9/11 happened? Off orbiting Pluto?

That post was quite a claim

MistressoftheDarkSide · 23/06/2025 23:12

Trump has just announced a ceasefire to begin in approximately 6 hours when both sides have "wound down and completed their in progress final missions" and in 24 hours the 12 day war will be over.

And he's God blessing everyone.

It's on his Truth Social thing.

🥴

OP posts:
BlushingBrightly · 23/06/2025 23:14

MistressoftheDarkSide · 23/06/2025 23:12

Trump has just announced a ceasefire to begin in approximately 6 hours when both sides have "wound down and completed their in progress final missions" and in 24 hours the 12 day war will be over.

And he's God blessing everyone.

It's on his Truth Social thing.

🥴

Does it thank everyone for their attention to this matter? 😫

PandoraSocks · 23/06/2025 23:15

He thinks he will get the peace prize for this doesn't he?

rainingsnoring · 23/06/2025 23:16

PandoraSocks · 23/06/2025 23:15

He thinks he will get the peace prize for this doesn't he?

It seems that way!