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I do not believe in gender identity.

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SernieBanders · 04/02/2025 09:05

There are two sexes: male and female. Occasionally, that matters.

There is no such thing as an innate gender identity—no internal essence that makes someone more inclined to wear dresses and sip wine, or football boots and down pints. Those are cultural stereotypes, not proof of some mystical gendered soul.

The idea of gender identity is sexist, misogynistic, and regressive. It reinforces outdated norms instead of challenging them. Women do not need an inner feeling of womanhood to be women. Men do not need a gender identity to be men. Sex is real. Stereotypes are not.

I hope with the flurry of cultural changes, legal challenges, scientific findings and executive orders in the last ~12 months, more people feel able to stand up and be counted, and say - No More.

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snowmichael · 04/02/2025 14:00

StayingHealthy · 04/02/2025 10:14

Completely agree. A man is a man, a woman is a woman. If a man wants to dress as a woman, fair enough that's up to them, but they are still a man. If a woman wants to dress as a man, fine! but they are still a woman.

All this 'i feel a like a woman, therefore I am one' and 'if I like wearing skirts and make up I must be a women's crap is nonsense! I'm a woman, I don't often wear skirts and never wear make up! that doesn't make me a man!!!

The worst thing is that this crap is taught in schools. My son tells me that his secondary school have been taught there are over 50 genders. One of his teachers is a "Mx" but she is quite clearly a woman. It's so confusing for the kids.

Boys are boys, girls are girls. Sure, express yourself however you like, boys can wear dresses, high heels etc.. of they like, good for them! Plenty of women don't wear them. Wearing a dress doesn't make you a female any more than wearing jeans and a t shirt makes you a man.

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> A man is a man, a woman is a woman
So what's an XYY or an XXY in your little world?
What about an XX(male)?
What about people born with both male and female genitalia?
Read more
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444632333000245

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 14:00

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 13:58

You're as incorrect as OP
Try reading some science
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444632333000245

Why don't you summarise it to show you understood it ?

MariaThomasFangs · 04/02/2025 14:00

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 13:58

You're as incorrect as OP
Try reading some science
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444632333000245

There are only two sexes. You either produce large or small gametes.

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 14:02

PersephoneSmith · 04/02/2025 10:20

I agree OP. We can only ever know how we feel. There’s no such thing as a ‘male brain’ of a ‘female brain’. If really pisses me off ‘oh I must have been born in the wrong body because I feel much more caring or nurturing than a man should’ or worse, ‘because I like pink’ (or glitter? Or rainbows?)
Don’t get me started on autogynephilia, that’s the big problem imo.

> There’s no such thing as a ‘male brain’ of a ‘female brain’.
Read more
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https://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.asp

ERthree · 04/02/2025 14:06

RobinEllacotStrike · 04/02/2025 12:47

Good question.

You could ask yourself how do YOU feel like a woman - that isn't anything to do with your female body? And how is this different to how a man might feel like a man that isn't anythig to do with his male body?

I've never come up with a good answer to this. I don't "feel" female - I simply am female. As are 51% of the worlds population. We matter.

Its vital to know gender ideology its MEANT to be confusing. Gender idology is designed to be confusing.

The confusion plus NO DEBATE, plus calling anyone who asks a question nazi/bigot/terf etc is how gender ideology beccame embedded in govt departments, BBC, NHS etc so very quickly and how men can now waltz into any womens space because he wants to.

Thankfully NO DEBATE is well and truly over now.

Women are pushing back. We want our women only spaces & will fight to protect them.

Woman = Adult Human Female. Anyone who says otherwise is deluded &/or lying.

How do i know that how i feel as a woman is any different or the same as every other woman. What i can't understand is what this "feeling" is. I am an adult woman, have given birth so i know i am definitely female. I love rugby and ice hockey always had a spanner in my hand when i was younger, always wore jeans and trainers and had really short hair. And how does a bloke that thinks he has been born in the wrong body know that he doesn't have the same "feeling" as every other man on the planet, how does he know he doesn't feel like a man ?AAgggh
It is all bloody mad, the way i see it is, if you were born with a penis you are a bloke. Call yourself what you like, wear what you like but stop lying and stop asking me to lie and lets just all get on with living.

RobinEllacotStrike · 04/02/2025 14:09

Yes, Its all bloody mad!!

Chersfrozenface · 04/02/2025 14:10

What about people born with both male and female genitalia?

No human has ever been born with both male and female genitalia.

RobinEllacotStrike · 04/02/2025 14:12

nam3c4ang3 · 04/02/2025 13:37

i dont even know what gender identity is.

it's complete & utter bollocks - that's what it is.

Poppicorns · 04/02/2025 14:15

Very well said. Completely agree.
Can't believe the level of stupidity in the population to have come to this.

Atangledweb · 04/02/2025 14:21

TwistedWonder · 04/02/2025 10:25

I’m old enough to remember when ‘gender bending’ was quite normal and it was absolutely fine for men to wear dresses and make up and women to have cropped hair and wear suits without thinking they were the opposite sex.

David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Boy George, Marilyn, Annie Lennox, Grace Jones plus many more all very androgynous in their appearance but distinctly their sex.

The whole TRA movement is regressive, misogynistic and homophobic.

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PersephoneSmith · 04/02/2025 14:24

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 14:02

> There’s no such thing as a ‘male brain’ of a ‘female brain’.
Read more
Learn
https://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.asp

How ironic that that is a load of bollocks

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 14:27

MariaThomasFangs · 04/02/2025 14:00

There are only two sexes. You either produce large or small gametes.

See also: handedness. We are only left - or right - handed.

Handedness is defined before birth. It's innate.

Someone naturally right handed can learn to use their left hand (and in the case of disability has to). But they will forever be a right handed person using their left hand. (And vice versa in the other 10% or so of cases).

Someone equally comfortable with using either hand is the handed equivalent of a bisexual.

If some posters think that is absolute bollocks, then at least it's trying to fit in here.

Gallstoned · 04/02/2025 14:31

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 13:58

You're as incorrect as OP
Try reading some science
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444632333000245

Do you not read?

ditalini · Today 13:39
There's XX(male), XXX, XXY, and XYY
What sex are those in your mind?
An XX male (de la Chapelle syndrome) has a SRY gene on one of his X chromosomes. Because of the presence of the SRY gene, his body follows the Wolffian sexual developmental pathway, developing male rather than female reproductive organs. His body is normally virilised by the testosterone produced by his testicles. He is male, unambiguously so.
A XXX female is a female who has a trisomy of the X chromosome. She's female, unambiguously so.
An XXY male has Klinfelter Syndrome. He's male. Might have a smaller penis and testicles than other men, is likely to be infertile, might have wider hips and gynaecomastia, but unambiguously male.
An XYY male is....male. Unambiguously so.
Only the first one was at all complicated to describe, and illustrates that in fact it's not really the Y chromosome that makes someone male but the SRY gene, but as that's almost always on the Y chromosome it makes very little difference in the definition in the vast, vast, vast majority of cases of DSDs which are already very, very, very rare.
DSDs don't show evidence of a third sex.

EasternStandard · 04/02/2025 14:31

Chersfrozenface · 04/02/2025 09:11

I don't have a gender identity. I have a physical sex and a personality.

Same

NotTerfNorCis · 04/02/2025 14:32

We've got a big problem that genderwang has attached itself to feminism. Now opposition to genderwang is manifesting as opposition to women's rights, in America. And TRAs have the gall to say 'I told you so'.

SernieBanders · 04/02/2025 14:34

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 13:58

You're as incorrect as OP
Try reading some science
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444632333000245

Again. People with DSDs are STILL MALE OR FEMALE.

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Feelingathomenow · 04/02/2025 14:35

What is extraordinary is that even on Themis thread, people are coming out with things like “female brain”, “people born with male and female genitalia” “ what about people with XXY chromosomes?” “Third sex”. There’s people who have actually brought this stuff (and used it to mutilate and drug). We need to always question, because if you question gender ideology it collapses like a house of cards.

We need to also question why this ideology has been pushed. We need to follow the money and power.

The sad thing is so many women have so vigorously been misled in defending and enabling this ideology. We need to understand how it is that so many women have been so manipulated into defending something so harmful, - that needs to be a serious focus going forward - why are so many women so easily manipulated into defending something so harmful to them. Because if it’s happened with this, where something so basic as there being two sexes has been claimed as false and people have inexplicably believed it, what is next? Something even more harmful? I have a feeling this shit show has been a trial run. We need to be on our guard

SernieBanders · 04/02/2025 14:36

MariaThomasFangs · 04/02/2025 14:00

There are only two sexes. You either produce large or small gametes.

Keep saying it loud and proud. There are only and can only be two sexes. it is binary by definition

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LillyPJ · 04/02/2025 14:40

MariaThomasFangs · 04/02/2025 14:00

There are only two sexes. You either produce large or small gametes.

I'm sure you are aware that sex is not the same as gender.

LillyPJ · 04/02/2025 14:41

SernieBanders · 04/02/2025 14:36

Keep saying it loud and proud. There are only and can only be two sexes. it is binary by definition

And yet sex is not the same as gender, and your OP was about the latter.

MariaThomasFangs · 04/02/2025 14:42

LillyPJ · 04/02/2025 14:40

I'm sure you are aware that sex is not the same as gender.

Yes, I am. The conversation has moved on with posters bringing sex into the matter in a bid to validate gender ideology, and that is what I was replying to.

It's usually the proponents of gender who bring sex into the equation, as you can see on this thread!

SernieBanders · 04/02/2025 14:42

LillyPJ · 04/02/2025 14:41

And yet sex is not the same as gender, and your OP was about the latter.

No part of the quote chain mentions gender.

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MariaThomasFangs · 04/02/2025 14:47

LillyPJ · 04/02/2025 14:41

And yet sex is not the same as gender, and your OP was about the latter.

Since you're someone who agrees sex and gender are very different things, maybe you can tell me why one's gender identity (which is different fro sex) entitles people of the male sex to enter female single-sex spaces? If all they've changed is their gender then this should not be happening, should it?

SnakesAndArrows · 04/02/2025 14:49

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 13:58

You're as incorrect as OP
Try reading some science
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444632333000245

The existence of DSDs does not indicate the existence of more than two sexes. Maybe you should try reading some science.

edited for typo

Feelingathomenow · 04/02/2025 14:52

snowmichael · 04/02/2025 14:02

> There’s no such thing as a ‘male brain’ of a ‘female brain’.
Read more
Learn
https://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.asp

That page can no longer be found - most likely that someone has fact checked it.

its become fairly obvious that gender ideology and the industry that surrounds and is supported by it is collapsing-that is beyond question.

your link to the chromosomes argument equally does not support your position so I’m perplexed why you have linked it. Are you relying on people thinking “oh she’s linked a science journal do she must be speaking the truth” without opening and reading it? It’s unfortunate your whole MO is based on the presumption people, specifically women, are not intelligent enough to see through the lies. This whole farce is over, people and organisations who have been hoodwinked are just working out how to back track.

What we need to do is understand how to help the many people who have been adversely affected. How to stop something like this happening again.

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