I do not believe in gender identity.

[SernieBanders]

There are two sexes: male and female. Occasionally, that matters.

There is no such thing as an innate gender identity—no internal essence that makes someone more inclined to wear dresses and sip wine, or football boots and down pints. Those are cultural stereotypes, not proof of some mystical gendered soul.

The idea of gender identity is sexist, misogynistic, and regressive. It reinforces outdated norms instead of challenging them. Women do not need an inner feeling of womanhood to be women. Men do not need a gender identity to be men. Sex is real. Stereotypes are not.

I hope with the flurry of cultural changes, legal challenges, scientific findings and executive orders in the last ~12 months, more people feel able to stand up and be counted, and say - No More.

SnakesAndArrows, snowmichael is either remarkably contentious or remarkably stupid; probably both. Repeating him or her self over and over again, and providing more and more information about something irrelevant to what is being talked about, is how we can tell.

Incidentally, as I understand it people with any of these syndromes are likely bitterly to resent being co-opted as examples in the trans ideology's arguments, and say so very loud and clear at intervals.

She certainly is. Because sex is based on material reality. As mammals we are one of two sexes and cannot change from one to the other. Female or male.

Gender is a set of expectations about appearance, behaviour, abilities etc that a society holds about people of a particular sex. Femininity or masculinity.

What is seen as masculine or feminine changes from culture to culture and across time. High heels were originally worn by men, for example.

People can accept or reject those cultural expectations, or (as most people do) present as a pick and mix jumble of them.

Yes, they've asked time and time again not to have their medical conditions used as some kind of trans activist gotcha, but here we are again,

I don't even see how it's relevant when anyone with any configuration of chromosomes can have any gender identity they please anyway. If gender nd sex are different, then how does having a difference in sexual development even come into it? It doesn't but they're clutching at straws at the expense of other people's medical health.

That website is quite interesting though. I see it is talking about research which supports Cass ref puberty blockers. They’re all reverse ferreting now.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250123/Uncertainty-surrounds-effects-of-puberty-blockers-and-hormone-therapy-for-gender-dysphoria.aspx

Better late than never. Poor children and young people (and their parents) that have been / are caught up in this medical and societal scandal. 🥺

What did JK Rowling say that was transphobic?

Isn't that just being bisexual?

‘This nonsense is just the gay panic rebranded’

No. no it isn’t. I know it makes some people feel better to think and say this, but it’s totally different.

Many LGB people aren’t happy that the TRA community try and drag the long fought LGB battles for equality, into the ‘men identifying as women’ removing women’s rights battle.

That’s why the founder of stonewall left stonewall. It no longer fought for gay rights.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9638119/amp/Stonewalled-aggressive-new-leaders-gay-rights-group-helped-launch.html

What did JK Rowling say that was transphobic?

No one will be able to answer this.
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What an interesting thread, based on the media I assumed everyone believed in gender identity and it was a heinous crime to state otherwise. Thank you for showing this isn’t in fact the case. I think people are now so scared to say how they really think for fear of being cancelled (aka JK Rowling).

@MariaThomasFangs makes a very valid point about single sex spaces and how we should be able to discuss this without being called transphobic.
“You do you” as a response to OP belittles the seriousness of this whole subject. Try to imagine if it was your immature, traumatised, autistic child who was being caught up in this. What would you do then. I can help answer that for you because I am in that situation. You would try to support your child in every way possible - bearing in mind they are autistic so may not be able to express how they feel. You would encourage them to explore their feelings through therapy and if you’re lucky they might agree to social transitioning only whilst they explore their trauma and identity. But if they’re looking for a quick fix, which they probably are because therapy is hard for anyone and especially for those with autism, they’ll probably go to gender GP or a private clinic and start medically transitioning. And with their rigid thinking they may not get enough relief from hormones and will start thinking about surgery. And it might just be too hard to come back from that path once you have invested so heavily in it. Then you are left with consequences for the rest of your life.

So replying to OP with “you do you” suggests to me that you haven’t thought this through at all.
The number of people being hurt by the unquestioning acceptance of the trans identifying individual is overlooked. I have no doubt that their distress is extreme and they do need help but unfortunately the help they are receiving is not based on science and is causing irreversible damage.
I’m so grateful to people like OP for opening up the conversation.

FFS, what happened to being born a boy or a girl?
Does it really matter?

Thats what I was hoping to find out! what people really think !

@Kalalily - I actually do have a "traumatised, autistic child who was being caught up in this", and in fact. am doing all the things you said, thanks for the affirming words appreciated

What an interesting thread, based on the media I assumed everyone believed in gender identity and it was a heinous crime to state otherwise.

You mean like Christianity 500 years ago ? That really should have been the alarm call.

You could say the same about 70 percent of the threads posted on here at any given time. Sometimes people just want to discuss things. It is a discussion forum after all.

Yes, this ☝️ ❤️ 🙌

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Any more for my bingo card?

What a remarkably silly post. If you go quietly about your life on this issue, more and more women’s rights, protections and spaces will be eroded, and statistics will mysteriously rack up bewildering new numbers of women sex criminals, domestic abusers and murderers.

I'm just hoping that it all moves on and gets sorted. <<Yawn>>

People post about everything from how often they wash their sheets to whether they should buy a pink shirt or a green one on here. Why should they not be allowed to discuss this? How is this less worthy of discussion than anything else. Why are you on a discussion forum if you think it's pointless to y'know discuss things?

‘This nonsense is just the gay panic rebranded’

All the following are true:

• trans rights activists ambulance chased the gay rights movement after their success;
• many gay rights charities, seeing funding dry up after gay marriage was won, looked for a new cause and pivoted to the trans movement. Quelle surprise their funding increased exponentially and no one lost their job;
• so many people parked their brains and simply believed the trans rights movement was indeed the new civil rights movement without engaging their own minds to think things through;
• Stonewall had huge amounts of goodwill which they poured into trans rights and used to deceive and manipulate people, companies, NHS, governent departments etc so very successfully;
• See also the notorious "Dentons document" which advised trans rights organsitions how to have gender identity/self id etc laws passed without proper scrutiny - this happened in NZ, in Ireland etc;
• Around this time companies needed to offer DEI etc training and most didn't know what to do - so they outsourced to formerly "trusted" organisations like Stonewall, who somehow convinced everyone that sex didn't matter anymore. Stonewall even changed the definitions on their website saying gay people were "same gender attracted" (no longer same sex attracted). Stonewall & retrospectively destroyed their formerly good name & reputation;
• trans rights are very homophobic - in fact trans "medical care" is 99% conversion therapy for gay people;
• Trans rights are nothing to do with gay rights - no civil rights movement seeks to take rights away from other people and give a protected group of people additonal rights to everyone else. The trans rights movement is not a civil rights movement;
• Trans rights movement is like Brexit on steroids - hugely divisive to all groups including lesbians and gay men;
• Sadik Khan, a massive TRA, has recently removed his pronouns from X.

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