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HELP! [Child rape gangs in Bradford]

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bradfordisdamned · 09/01/2025 17:39

I know this is a horrible subject.

This news article from today shows how much it's being ignored here

After the death of Star Hobson, Bradford was stripped of its child protective services because it was completely unfit.

It continues to be an absolute disaster. I feel that this nightmare is being ignored because Bradford just so happens to be the city of culture for 2025. It's being ignored for many more reasons than that of course, but this is completely and utterly unacceptable. I think officials just don't want to be accused of racism and our children continue to suffer because of it.

Can you please help me make some noise with this? I am going to be writing to my MP, but this needs more attention. We need to put pressure on prominent people to get a public enquiry underway. Rejecting it is despicable. They just don't want to admit we have a major problem.

I am pasting the article here because unfortunately the newspaper site can be riddled with ads that sometimes make it unusable, but I didn't want to ask for Mumsnet help without providing sources.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable to want this enquiry to go ahead. I think Mumsnet will agree with me. Thank you in advance.

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Officials reject new calls for public inquiry on child abuse

A PUBLIC inquiry examining child sexual abuse in the Bradford area is "unlikely to provide us with any new learning", according to the district's safeguarding partnership.
In the House of Commons on Monday, Robbie Moore, Tory MP for Keighley and Ilkley, said "rape gangs and child grooming" have "haunted" the district "for decades" - and he again accused local leaders of refusing to launch an inquiry.

He added that he feared the scale of child sexual abuse and exploitation across the Bradford district would "dwarf that of Rotherham".

In 2014, a report by Professor Alexis Jay described how more than 1,400 children were sexually exploited by gangs of mainly Asian males in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, between 1997 and 2013.

Phillipa Hubbard, of the Bradford District Safeguarding Children Partnership, responded to Mr Moore's remarks by saying: "The national Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, which was published in October 2022 and to which Bradford contributed, has made it very clear that this is a national issue.

"Like many local authorities up and down the country, we know that agencies in our district have made mistakes in the past.
"This is why we commissioned an independent review into child sexual exploitation which was published in 2021 so that all the agencies in our district who work with children can implement the learning from past cases.

"The review was extremely detailed and thorough, and was written by an independent author. It looked in-depth at local and national learning and best practice.
"In addition to the review, our multi-agency safeguarding team undergoes regular independent scrutiny from Ofsted and the partnership also publishes an annual report, which anyone can read and which is open to public scrutiny.

"All the local agencies who are working in our district to keep children safe are committed to continued development and improvement.
"The view of our partnership remains that a public inquiry would cost a huge amount of money, use precious officer time and is unlikely to provide us with any new learning that would better-protect children from being abused."

In response, Mr Moore said: "This is a complete and utter dereliction of duty.
"The Council says its 2021 review was 'detailed', but it focused on just five children.
"Meanwhile, the Rotherham inquiry focused on the experiences of over 1,400 children.
"The idea that a Bradford inquiry would bring about no new information is an outright falsehood - and I am completely shocked by these comments.

Officials reject fresh calls for public inquiry on child abuse in Bradford

A public inquiry examining child sexual abuse in the Bradford area is "unlikely to provide us with any new learning", according to the…

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/24843152.officials-reject-new-calls-public-inquiry-child-abuse/

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lifeturnsonadime · 09/01/2025 17:49

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bradfordisdamned · 09/01/2025 17:56

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Bradford has child rapists and abusers from all backgrounds, as you can see from the linked article about Star Hobson.

The Telegraph & Argus article talks about Asian men, but if the enquiry goes ahead I think it would find men from all backgrounds involved. This is also why it's important to go ahead with it.

My hard hat is firmly on, I don't care about being yelled at anymore.

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KnittingOnEmpty · 09/01/2025 17:57

But there have been several enquiries yet the recommendations have not been acted upon (by the previous govt).

lifeturnsonadime · 09/01/2025 18:05

Bradford has child rapists and abusers from all backgrounds, as you can see from the linked article about Star Hobson

Of course sadly most child abuse comes from within the family or other people known to the child.

However I doubt anyone is trying to prevent the identity of Star Hobson's abusers from being exposed.

The cover ups were because of fears of racism allegations.

dottiehens · 09/01/2025 18:10

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bradfordisdamned · 09/01/2025 18:12

lifeturnsonadime · 09/01/2025 18:05

Bradford has child rapists and abusers from all backgrounds, as you can see from the linked article about Star Hobson

Of course sadly most child abuse comes from within the family or other people known to the child.

However I doubt anyone is trying to prevent the identity of Star Hobson's abusers from being exposed.

The cover ups were because of fears of racism allegations.

Regarding Star, I linked that story because that was the catalyst for having our child protective services removed.

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dottiehens · 09/01/2025 18:16

I am glad Andy Burham came out and said an inquiry is needed. Nothing to hide then go ahead with it. Big mistake to elect a human rights lawyer as a PM. This was expected. The gaslighting about being a right wing wagon is disgraceful.

OneTC · 09/01/2025 18:21

lifeturnsonadime · 09/01/2025 18:05

Bradford has child rapists and abusers from all backgrounds, as you can see from the linked article about Star Hobson

Of course sadly most child abuse comes from within the family or other people known to the child.

However I doubt anyone is trying to prevent the identity of Star Hobson's abusers from being exposed.

The cover ups were because of fears of racism allegations.

Always thought the "didn't want to look like a racist but happy to look like a paedo enabler" sounds a bit suspect.

The reality is no one in positions of power gives much of a fuck about poor people of any skin colour

GooseMoose2 · 09/01/2025 18:26

OneTC · 09/01/2025 18:21

Always thought the "didn't want to look like a racist but happy to look like a paedo enabler" sounds a bit suspect.

The reality is no one in positions of power gives much of a fuck about poor people of any skin colour

Agree and having grown up in a town notorious for the child sex abuse gangs the issue was never a fear of racism. It was that the police and the council and even the teachers had no interest in the girls affected.

ilovesooty · 09/01/2025 18:32

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30.5% of the Bradford population identified as Muslim in the last census.

lifeturnsonadime · 09/01/2025 18:42

OneTC · 09/01/2025 18:21

Always thought the "didn't want to look like a racist but happy to look like a paedo enabler" sounds a bit suspect.

The reality is no one in positions of power gives much of a fuck about poor people of any skin colour

Well two things can be true at once.

Unless you are saying that witnesses are actually lying which I find extremely far fetched.

OneTC · 09/01/2025 18:56

You trust a load of paedo enablers?

Alright then

Donttellmewhatheknew · 09/01/2025 18:56

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JustSawJohnny · 09/01/2025 18:58

I feel that this nightmare is being ignored because Bradford just so happens to be the city of culture for 2025.

Evidence? 'Feelings' are just that.

Also, what's wrong with the enquiry that's already happened?

Surely it's time to act on the National enquiry that's already happened rather than waste millions, and years, doing another one?

Menopausalsourpuss · 09/01/2025 19:05

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That documentary was despicable at a time like this. 10s of thousands of real victims versus 1 fake victim and they choose to focus on her. And you are despicable for buying into it.

bradfordisdamned · 09/01/2025 19:07

I am sick and tired of this being downplayed.

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GooseMoose2 · 09/01/2025 19:07

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There is a massive problem with grooming gangs in a lot of towns and cities in west and South Yorkshire.

I don’t think the fake grooming allegations are relevant here.

I grew up in one of these towns and Pakistani Muslim would harass the schoolgirls in town, sat in their cars outside schools and cars homes and exploited ie raped and sexually abused the most vulnerable children.

Bradford has had issues with the council since the early 2000s not wanting to stoke tensions.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/20/channel4.broadcasting1

As I understand the Pakistani men who emigrated to the northern towns were from the most uneducated areas of Pakistan where misogyny is rife and brought these attitudes towards women over.

Channel 4 pulls abuse film after police fears

2.15pm: Channel 4 has postponed a documentary about Bradford social workers dealing with child abuse from its schedule tonight after police warned it could inflame racial tension in the city. By Jason Deans.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/20/channel4.broadcasting1

thisfilmisboring123 · 09/01/2025 19:07

GooseMoose2 · 09/01/2025 18:26

Agree and having grown up in a town notorious for the child sex abuse gangs the issue was never a fear of racism. It was that the police and the council and even the teachers had no interest in the girls affected.

And how do you know it wasn’t a fear of racism?

Hotflushesandchilblains · 09/01/2025 19:08

Wont another national enquiry will postpone implementation of the recommendations of the one in 2022? Its already shocking that they were not implemented immediately. On the other hand, each area also has different circumstances and factors present, and so there needs to be some work on implementing the national recommendations locally and adding any further ones needed.

GooseMoose2 · 09/01/2025 19:10

thisfilmisboring123 · 09/01/2025 19:07

And how do you know it wasn’t a fear of racism?

I would say because the police themselves would be unashamedly racist towards the Pakistani immigrants,

if for example we (as teenagers) were harassed by any of the men when we were walking through town and then spoke to a police officer a typical response would be

‘they’re [racist word for Pakistani’s] what do you expect, you know what they’re like’

OneTC · 09/01/2025 19:11

thisfilmisboring123 · 09/01/2025 19:07

And how do you know it wasn’t a fear of racism?

Since when have people actually been scared of appearing racist?

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GooseMoose2 · 09/01/2025 19:20

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It’s not silly gossip .

The reality is that there are many Pakistani men in northern town who continue to sexually abuse the most vulnerable girls in society.

No one in their right mind would say that all Pakistanis are paedophiles.

However there is a problem with the Pakistani men who have emigrated to post industrial towns, as uncomfortable as it clearly makes you feel.

bradfordisdamned · 09/01/2025 19:21

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Bradford has a massive problem and we need help, not more sweeping under the carpet to save face.

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