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HELP! [Child rape gangs in Bradford]

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bradfordisdamned · 09/01/2025 17:39

I know this is a horrible subject.

This news article from today shows how much it's being ignored here

After the death of Star Hobson, Bradford was stripped of its child protective services because it was completely unfit.

It continues to be an absolute disaster. I feel that this nightmare is being ignored because Bradford just so happens to be the city of culture for 2025. It's being ignored for many more reasons than that of course, but this is completely and utterly unacceptable. I think officials just don't want to be accused of racism and our children continue to suffer because of it.

Can you please help me make some noise with this? I am going to be writing to my MP, but this needs more attention. We need to put pressure on prominent people to get a public enquiry underway. Rejecting it is despicable. They just don't want to admit we have a major problem.

I am pasting the article here because unfortunately the newspaper site can be riddled with ads that sometimes make it unusable, but I didn't want to ask for Mumsnet help without providing sources.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable to want this enquiry to go ahead. I think Mumsnet will agree with me. Thank you in advance.

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Officials reject new calls for public inquiry on child abuse

A PUBLIC inquiry examining child sexual abuse in the Bradford area is "unlikely to provide us with any new learning", according to the district's safeguarding partnership.
In the House of Commons on Monday, Robbie Moore, Tory MP for Keighley and Ilkley, said "rape gangs and child grooming" have "haunted" the district "for decades" - and he again accused local leaders of refusing to launch an inquiry.

He added that he feared the scale of child sexual abuse and exploitation across the Bradford district would "dwarf that of Rotherham".

In 2014, a report by Professor Alexis Jay described how more than 1,400 children were sexually exploited by gangs of mainly Asian males in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, between 1997 and 2013.

Phillipa Hubbard, of the Bradford District Safeguarding Children Partnership, responded to Mr Moore's remarks by saying: "The national Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, which was published in October 2022 and to which Bradford contributed, has made it very clear that this is a national issue.

"Like many local authorities up and down the country, we know that agencies in our district have made mistakes in the past.
"This is why we commissioned an independent review into child sexual exploitation which was published in 2021 so that all the agencies in our district who work with children can implement the learning from past cases.

"The review was extremely detailed and thorough, and was written by an independent author. It looked in-depth at local and national learning and best practice.
"In addition to the review, our multi-agency safeguarding team undergoes regular independent scrutiny from Ofsted and the partnership also publishes an annual report, which anyone can read and which is open to public scrutiny.

"All the local agencies who are working in our district to keep children safe are committed to continued development and improvement.
"The view of our partnership remains that a public inquiry would cost a huge amount of money, use precious officer time and is unlikely to provide us with any new learning that would better-protect children from being abused."

In response, Mr Moore said: "This is a complete and utter dereliction of duty.
"The Council says its 2021 review was 'detailed', but it focused on just five children.
"Meanwhile, the Rotherham inquiry focused on the experiences of over 1,400 children.
"The idea that a Bradford inquiry would bring about no new information is an outright falsehood - and I am completely shocked by these comments.

Officials reject fresh calls for public inquiry on child abuse in Bradford

A public inquiry examining child sexual abuse in the Bradford area is "unlikely to provide us with any new learning", according to the…

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/24843152.officials-reject-new-calls-public-inquiry-child-abuse/

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whippy1981 · 14/01/2025 22:14

Wonderberry · 14/01/2025 21:18

You are talking about flaws with the education system. I'm sure they are many. It did come across as accusing me of 'victim blaming'.

For example, I had no education about safeguarding whatsoever. I'm in my 30s, and while I was at school there were 2 teachers who the pupils knew were peadophiles. I didn't know how or who to raise it to. I told my mum, who tried to raise it with the school, but nothing happened. Clear education and clear safeguarding could have prevented further victims.

I have asked my daughter's school extensively for better education regarding pshe and citizenship, especially considering the racism that she has experienced at school, but nothing has improved.

You were talking about flaws in the education system and I added onto that.

As I said I didn't as this situation wasn't considered a problem back then as the kids were considered prostitutes as the definition stated they were. So they were treated as such not as victims. Your mum could've reported it to the police if there were concerns. She didn't.

I'm sorry your daughter experiences this in school the perpetrators of this should be held to account by the school.

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 10:13

whippy1981 · 14/01/2025 22:14

You were talking about flaws in the education system and I added onto that.

As I said I didn't as this situation wasn't considered a problem back then as the kids were considered prostitutes as the definition stated they were. So they were treated as such not as victims. Your mum could've reported it to the police if there were concerns. She didn't.

I'm sorry your daughter experiences this in school the perpetrators of this should be held to account by the school.

I don't think it's fair to have blamed my mum in this situation. English is not her first language, and she was not born here. The school told her they would report to the police. I don't know if this happened, but both staff members continued to be employed by the school. The fault firmly lay in the lack of education regarding safeguarding and lack of clear safeguarding protocols.

I have tried to have accountability regarding my daughter's school, but unfortunately there has been no change. The racist comments even came from a teacher on one occasion, and while the teacher admitted to this, and it was witnessed by a whole class, they are also still employed by the school.

whippy1981 · 15/01/2025 20:22

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 10:13

I don't think it's fair to have blamed my mum in this situation. English is not her first language, and she was not born here. The school told her they would report to the police. I don't know if this happened, but both staff members continued to be employed by the school. The fault firmly lay in the lack of education regarding safeguarding and lack of clear safeguarding protocols.

I have tried to have accountability regarding my daughter's school, but unfortunately there has been no change. The racist comments even came from a teacher on one occasion, and while the teacher admitted to this, and it was witnessed by a whole class, they are also still employed by the school.

You said you knew nothing happened. Now you are saying you don't know. I agree so.ething should've happened but no one knows what has gone on behind the scenes. Getting someone arrested is as rare as hens teeth. You mum did fail to report it. If she reported in school and nothing happened/don't know what happened and she didn't act to keep you safe and kept sending you despite having evidence these ppl were abusing you and your mates then that is a lack of safeguarding on her behalf. EAL or not.

So in your situation I wouldn't be happy that my daughter was experiencing such things in school. No kid should be and the school should be held to account. Nothing had happened so what next? What is your next action?

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 20:56

whippy1981 · 15/01/2025 20:22

You said you knew nothing happened. Now you are saying you don't know. I agree so.ething should've happened but no one knows what has gone on behind the scenes. Getting someone arrested is as rare as hens teeth. You mum did fail to report it. If she reported in school and nothing happened/don't know what happened and she didn't act to keep you safe and kept sending you despite having evidence these ppl were abusing you and your mates then that is a lack of safeguarding on her behalf. EAL or not.

So in your situation I wouldn't be happy that my daughter was experiencing such things in school. No kid should be and the school should be held to account. Nothing had happened so what next? What is your next action?

You are placing the onus of safeguarding on children and parents, when it should be on the school, regarding issues within the school. This sounds like victim blaming.

What I know for certain is that these teachers continued to work at the school.

I was not abused, but knew if others who were. In fact, we all knew. Perhaps very outing, but one of the abusers (male) was even found in the girls' dorm, by another staff member. Still nothing happened.

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 20:58

As a minimum, a male staff member being found in a girls' dorm , where they had no business being, should have been grounds for instant dismissal. They even climbed from the outside onto the first floor through an open window to enter (which was on CCTV)

whippy1981 · 15/01/2025 21:30

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 20:56

You are placing the onus of safeguarding on children and parents, when it should be on the school, regarding issues within the school. This sounds like victim blaming.

What I know for certain is that these teachers continued to work at the school.

I was not abused, but knew if others who were. In fact, we all knew. Perhaps very outing, but one of the abusers (male) was even found in the girls' dorm, by another staff member. Still nothing happened.

Did you not read the bit where I said they should be held to account?

Are you saying a parent isnt responsible for safeguarding their child? I asked what you are going to do that is a question. You keep saying they've done nothing so I ask again, what now?

You said you don't know what happened. Then nothing happened. We all know how difficult it is to get sex offenders to court. The school could've tried but had nothing to go on and the police NFA'd it. As it wasn't you involved then you weren't entitled to be told what was the investigation or outcome. Something could've happened or it might not have done. As you say we don't know. It should've done. I said it again so you can read it again and scan past it again.

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 21:50

whippy1981 · 15/01/2025 21:30

Did you not read the bit where I said they should be held to account?

Are you saying a parent isnt responsible for safeguarding their child? I asked what you are going to do that is a question. You keep saying they've done nothing so I ask again, what now?

You said you don't know what happened. Then nothing happened. We all know how difficult it is to get sex offenders to court. The school could've tried but had nothing to go on and the police NFA'd it. As it wasn't you involved then you weren't entitled to be told what was the investigation or outcome. Something could've happened or it might not have done. As you say we don't know. It should've done. I said it again so you can read it again and scan past it again.

Honestly, I'll stop engaging, as you seem to be deliberately misinterpreting a very sensitive issue. It's tactless at best, victim blaming at worst.

Many victims are vulnerable, as are there families (as was the case for many of the Bradford victims). For this reason, the onus for safeguarding should not be placed on them.

Crowstarlinggoldfinchrobin · 15/01/2025 22:13

You're an adult now, and it is not too late to report these men to the police if you know their identities. There is a BBC reporter called Alex Renton who has been investigating historic abuse in public schools going back decades. Nicky Campbell is involved in this campaign, after hearing the programme (In Dark Corners) and reliving his own experiences over 40 years ago. These men may even still be teaching or working with children if they are alive.

With regard to your own daughter, please now go to the board of governors, any local school trust your school is involved with and Ofsted. If your school is aware of racial abuse and is doing nothing about it, it is failing. You could even go to the police if this is a race related and amounts to harassment.

whippy1981 · 15/01/2025 22:38

Wonderberry · 15/01/2025 21:50

Honestly, I'll stop engaging, as you seem to be deliberately misinterpreting a very sensitive issue. It's tactless at best, victim blaming at worst.

Many victims are vulnerable, as are there families (as was the case for many of the Bradford victims). For this reason, the onus for safeguarding should not be placed on them.

Everyone who can do something should do something. That is a duty for all of us, agreed?

Not deliberately at all. I'm autistic so if you state something I'll take it at face value. Pretty much in a nutshell.

And as I said all of us have a duty to safeguard and report and not be complacent and say well I met a hurdle in the road so didn't go around it as I didn't think to do so.

bradfordisdamned · 17/01/2025 19:52

Front page of the local paper

These men are disgusting. The bottom one looks like a caveman. Disgusting creatures the lot of them.

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