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NonsuchCastle · 22/09/2024 00:33

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It's called specialisation. Ugh.

NotSoHotMess24 · 22/09/2024 00:38

There's nothing technically wrong with it. I think what's off-putting is that it's so public, and being advertised in mainstream papers, whereas in the not-so-distant past, it would have been a lot more "niche", and you wouldn't just happen across an article for it when you were doing the crossword.

At the end of the day, it's sex for money, with more steps. So although I don't think it should be banned or anything, I feel it should be subject to similar rules around soliciting.

shuggles · 22/09/2024 00:44

@NotSoHotMess24 At the end of the day, it's sex for money, with more steps. So although I don't think it should be banned or anything, I feel it should be subject to similar rules around soliciting.

The men are not paying, so they can't be "soliciting."

It is sex for money though as she will be uploading the videos online and making a profit. The men won't earn anything though.

Alucard55 · 22/09/2024 00:45

Lovefromjuliaxo · 22/09/2024 00:29

Imagine what MN would say if this was a man. The double standards on here are a joke.

Meh, as long as they’re all over 16, consent and practice safe sex it’s no big deal. She’s probs like a wizards sleeve down there.

I personally feel the same whether it's a man or a woman. Selling sex and inviting people to queue up to use your body indicates a complete lack of self respect in my opinion.

NonsuchCastle · 22/09/2024 00:48

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/09/2024 23:57

It's up to men NOT to think that this is ok and not do it. It's up to parents to instil that into their children so that they don't grow up thinking that this is an acceptable way to behave.

When a woman markets her body like this there is always, always damage behind that action. What does it say for men who are willing to queue up to use a woman like this, any woman? That's why I said that we need to do better by our sons and teach them although reading this thread I think that's a lost cause for many; they are so desperate to blame women.

Nobody is "desperate to blame women". We are discussing one particular (at least 35 year old) woman.

As for bringing up sons to respect women etc. well that's so obvious it doesn't need to be said.

We're talking about the woman and what she is doing, not the boys and men. I am quite sure she is "damaged" but it doesn't make her actions any less disgusting.

NotSoHotMess24 · 22/09/2024 00:50

shuggles · 22/09/2024 00:44

@NotSoHotMess24 At the end of the day, it's sex for money, with more steps. So although I don't think it should be banned or anything, I feel it should be subject to similar rules around soliciting.

The men are not paying, so they can't be "soliciting."

It is sex for money though as she will be uploading the videos online and making a profit. The men won't earn anything though.

I think soliciting is when you are the sex worker, touting for business? Unless I've misunderstood it. But if I'm right, she is advertising that she is willing to have sex, to upload to Only Fans, to ultimately get paid. As such, she is soliciting in a sense.

shuggles · 22/09/2024 00:53

@NotSoHotMess24 I think soliciting is when you are the sex worker, touting for business?

Fair enough.

As such, she is soliciting in a sense.

Definitely not. The idea of the UK laws is to avoid a public nuisance. Think along the lines of prostitutes hanging around streets and clients talking to them.

Advertising a sexual service is not illegal.

NotSoHotMess24 · 22/09/2024 01:06

shuggles · 22/09/2024 00:53

@NotSoHotMess24 I think soliciting is when you are the sex worker, touting for business?

Fair enough.

As such, she is soliciting in a sense.

Definitely not. The idea of the UK laws is to avoid a public nuisance. Think along the lines of prostitutes hanging around streets and clients talking to them.

Advertising a sexual service is not illegal.

Sorry to disagree so late in the day! Advertising sexual services IS illegal (unlawful?) In the UK, although performing sexual acts isn't a crime. That's why you get sex workers calling themselves "masseuses" or "escorts", or else they wouldn't bother. Hanging around on street corners is another form of advertising, which is why it's also banned.

It seems she's getting away with it on a technicality, like Ubers "not being taxis". Which I'd guess is why a lot of people are taking umbridge.

NotSoHotMess24 · 22/09/2024 01:08

And actually there seems like there will be a physical line for this woman!! Not very discreet 😬"Mummy, what's that line for? Is there a party in that house??".

shuggles · 22/09/2024 01:16

@NotSoHotMess24 Advertising sexual services IS illegal (unlawful?) In the UK,

Every single one of them openly advertises online though.

That's why you get sex workers calling themselves "masseuses" or "escorts"

These are just polite euphemisms, but I think it's pretty clear on their websites what they are advertising.

LonelyInDville · 22/09/2024 01:24

Honestly I think it’s more grim that she has thousands of interested “boys” and men lined up. I can’t understand why men tend to let their dicks guide them to do idiotic crap like this, just for an orgasm. I will never understand that.

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/09/2024 01:40

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 00:25

She may be the woman who took the record from the woman who the documentary was about.

Actually just googled (my history will be interesting) and she was Annabel Chong and is Singaporean. She had sex with 251 men in 10 hours to make a film but her doing that is what started the "record" race. The film is "Sex. the Annabel Chong Story" but it is depressing as hell, so while it is very interesting, be aware that it is a horrible watch.

Then I read about that woman you mention and it turns out that there were THREE women competing for the title, how many men turned up for that?! Its just so so awful that there are so many grim disgusting men out there........and they wonder why we dont like them.

Gosh this is even worse I think. I would wonder if slept with them in pairs or something otherwise that’s 25 an hour and 2 minutes each leaving seconds at changeover. I’m trying to imagine that. No time for them to orgasm or maybe even slip on a condom, not that 4 minutes if she was doing it 2 at a time is much more. Grim. Just awful.

Aussiegirl123456 · 22/09/2024 01:50

I’m just thankful she’s not in Australia anymore! She’s disgusting. Her behaviour is disgraceful. But she’s proud, and is being pushed in the media like she’s some sort of hero and any female who is repulsed by her is just jealous! Would I want her life? No! Would I be ashamed if my daughter did what she’s doing? Yes! Sometimes I feel like I belong in another world…

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:00

London2024 · 21/09/2024 21:59

She is vile.

Why is she proud of being a lowly prostitute that any man could have?

A lowly prostitute?
Do you mean the whole prostitution business is lowly, or that her take on it (i.e. making a profital, potentially exploiting, business ) is lowly? Or is there a fgrading system; she is lowly, then there's a level similar to Joanna Lumley's character in Shirley Valentine, who only does VHNW indivduals?

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:03

Viviennemary · 21/09/2024 22:22

If she does this she should be charged with sexual offences. Vile

Which sexual offence? Consenting adults are involved

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:06

NonsuchCastle · 22/09/2024 00:31

She is disgusting, but come on, "waving a wand in a church hall" is brilliant!

Throwing a sausage up the Balls Pond Road I believe is the technical term in London!
But waving a wand in a church hall is priceless!

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:10

Sorry to go off-piste, but @LyingWitchInTheWardrobe is the best username on MN to date!

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:12

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:06

Throwing a sausage up the Balls Pond Road I believe is the technical term in London!
But waving a wand in a church hall is priceless!

Let's all snigger at her huge vagina.

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 02:13

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/09/2024 01:40

Gosh this is even worse I think. I would wonder if slept with them in pairs or something otherwise that’s 25 an hour and 2 minutes each leaving seconds at changeover. I’m trying to imagine that. No time for them to orgasm or maybe even slip on a condom, not that 4 minutes if she was doing it 2 at a time is much more. Grim. Just awful.

I know. Its mind blowing.

I seem to recall that Annabel Chong wasnt bothered about condoms, it was very graphic in the film and I remember being shocked that some werent wearing them. In the part that is seared in my brain, she was on hands and knees and it was one at a time and they werent there long. I think for them (again, if memory serves) it was about being a part of it rather than any sort of gratfication. They were fans of hers, so clearly porn officiandos, lets say (being kind) that it wasnt a queue of handsome buff men......
Like I said, a disturbing film but if you are mentally and emotionally up to it, enlightening in a very horrible way. Interestingly there are some negative reviews about how the film makers say that they are telling her story but that the reviewers feel that they are basically just making porn with a legitimate excuse and that she was used by them as much as she was by the porn industry and the men who used her. I agree.

Lots of people will do so much for money and fame, but how damaged must a person be that this a legitimate, or indeed preferred, choice? I absolutely do not agree that, in the Nottingham thing, its "her right to offer it, their right to take it" as the young men she is targetting are inexperienced, naive and being taken advantage of, but I do feel very sorry for her if this is what she needs to do to make herself feel good about herself.

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:13

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:12

Let's all snigger at her huge vagina.

I wasn't referring to any individual.

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 02:14

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:12

Let's all snigger at her huge vagina.

Or his tiny penis......works both ways, thats the joke Hmm

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:17

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:13

I wasn't referring to any individual.

Just a random comment about no one in particular that happens to be on a thread about a promiscuous woman. Okaaay.

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:18

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 02:14

Or his tiny penis......works both ways, thats the joke Hmm

Sure it does.

NQOCDarling · 22/09/2024 02:19

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:17

Just a random comment about no one in particular that happens to be on a thread about a promiscuous woman. Okaaay.

Replying to a post

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 02:24

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 02:18

Sure it does.

I personally dont find it funny but yes, it does.

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