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To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 21:26

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

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Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:00

I don’t have an issue with cross breeds, but I do find the constant poodle crosses a bit annoying. They all look the same, and unless they have a close clip, you can’t even see their faces properly.

They tend to be pleasant enough, but they’re not for me.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:12

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:00

I don’t have an issue with cross breeds, but I do find the constant poodle crosses a bit annoying. They all look the same, and unless they have a close clip, you can’t even see their faces properly.

They tend to be pleasant enough, but they’re not for me.

Nothing looks more identical than purebred surely?!

It's actually the thing I liked when I got mine... I didn't have any idea what she'd look like as she grew. My dog is one of 9 and they're all so different in colour and coat type. She has 1 brother who looks identical to her and that's it.

Many people have stopped me and said how unusual she is and I've been asked if she's a few different dogs, but never a poodle! I think it's as she's shaggy rather than curly.

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:18

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:12

Nothing looks more identical than purebred surely?!

It's actually the thing I liked when I got mine... I didn't have any idea what she'd look like as she grew. My dog is one of 9 and they're all so different in colour and coat type. She has 1 brother who looks identical to her and that's it.

Many people have stopped me and said how unusual she is and I've been asked if she's a few different dogs, but never a poodle! I think it's as she's shaggy rather than curly.

I meant across the different cross breeds. Whether it’s a spaniel, Labrador, retriever etc that’s been crossed with a poodle, they all look the same. Yet all those breeds are easily identifiable from one another.

Then the unruly hair meaning you can’t make out the shape of the dog, it’s just a load of fluff.

I once met a supposed labradoodle that came out black and wiry haired. He was by far my favourite looking “poodle cross” dog.

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 06:24

F0urt33n · 15/09/2024 05:57

And you seem to consistently ignore that the vast majority of pure breeders do it for money too.

How strange.

I actually pointed that out, earlier in the thread.

HTH

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 06:26

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:12

Nothing looks more identical than purebred surely?!

It's actually the thing I liked when I got mine... I didn't have any idea what she'd look like as she grew. My dog is one of 9 and they're all so different in colour and coat type. She has 1 brother who looks identical to her and that's it.

Many people have stopped me and said how unusual she is and I've been asked if she's a few different dogs, but never a poodle! I think it's as she's shaggy rather than curly.

Ummm, actually no. Purebred dogs don't look identical, what an odd statement. 8 of mine have been the same breed but they all looked very different.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:26

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:18

I meant across the different cross breeds. Whether it’s a spaniel, Labrador, retriever etc that’s been crossed with a poodle, they all look the same. Yet all those breeds are easily identifiable from one another.

Then the unruly hair meaning you can’t make out the shape of the dog, it’s just a load of fluff.

I once met a supposed labradoodle that came out black and wiry haired. He was by far my favourite looking “poodle cross” dog.

The wiry hair is quite common in labradoodles, my sister has a chocolate one. She's not curly at all. There are quite a few flat coated doodles about that look much more like their non poodle parent and you wouldn't have realised they are actually doodles. They very much are a mixed bag!

Very few people keep their doodles long. Mine has just turned 1 and has never been clipped, but she's definitely in the minority as the grooming is tough and not for the faint hearted! Her identical brother recently got totally shaved due to matting and was mistaken for a German pointer afterwards 😂 So if I get bored of her I can just turn her into a totally different breed 😂

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:30

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:26

The wiry hair is quite common in labradoodles, my sister has a chocolate one. She's not curly at all. There are quite a few flat coated doodles about that look much more like their non poodle parent and you wouldn't have realised they are actually doodles. They very much are a mixed bag!

Very few people keep their doodles long. Mine has just turned 1 and has never been clipped, but she's definitely in the minority as the grooming is tough and not for the faint hearted! Her identical brother recently got totally shaved due to matting and was mistaken for a German pointer afterwards 😂 So if I get bored of her I can just turn her into a totally different breed 😂

They definitely look better with wiry/less hair, but I haven’t seen many like that at all. I find the whole fad/craze thing annoying when it’s about a dog breed. It’s like people can’t think for themselves and just do what someone else does because it’s “cool”.

I would actually choose a standard poodle over a poo-cross any day, I love them 😃

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 06:33

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:26

The wiry hair is quite common in labradoodles, my sister has a chocolate one. She's not curly at all. There are quite a few flat coated doodles about that look much more like their non poodle parent and you wouldn't have realised they are actually doodles. They very much are a mixed bag!

Very few people keep their doodles long. Mine has just turned 1 and has never been clipped, but she's definitely in the minority as the grooming is tough and not for the faint hearted! Her identical brother recently got totally shaved due to matting and was mistaken for a German pointer afterwards 😂 So if I get bored of her I can just turn her into a totally different breed 😂

I bet your big doodle girl is gorgeous, she sounds very cute and characterful. I think if I had a doodle I'd keep it long and shaggy too. I love breeds like Otterhounds, Briards and unclipped Bouviers because of their shaggy faces.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:40

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:30

They definitely look better with wiry/less hair, but I haven’t seen many like that at all. I find the whole fad/craze thing annoying when it’s about a dog breed. It’s like people can’t think for themselves and just do what someone else does because it’s “cool”.

I would actually choose a standard poodle over a poo-cross any day, I love them 😃

See I'm the opposite, I love them with long hair and hate to see them clipped too short but I honestly have never met one long like mine. She looks a bit like an OES but with red hair. . or a Highland cow. I think she looks 'cool' but because she doesn't look like anybody else's!

I love standard poodles too (if kept long) but I did post before about wanting a dog which was a bit stockier and was worried about their high intelligence and possible separation anxiety. I've managed to avoid that as mine is definitely much more retriever like, despite having more poodle in her genes

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:43

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 06:33

I bet your big doodle girl is gorgeous, she sounds very cute and characterful. I think if I had a doodle I'd keep it long and shaggy too. I love breeds like Otterhounds, Briards and unclipped Bouviers because of their shaggy faces.

Thank you, I think she's gorgeous! I'm taking her to a fun local dog show today, so I'll see if anybody else agrees!

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:45

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:40

See I'm the opposite, I love them with long hair and hate to see them clipped too short but I honestly have never met one long like mine. She looks a bit like an OES but with red hair. . or a Highland cow. I think she looks 'cool' but because she doesn't look like anybody else's!

I love standard poodles too (if kept long) but I did post before about wanting a dog which was a bit stockier and was worried about their high intelligence and possible separation anxiety. I've managed to avoid that as mine is definitely much more retriever like, despite having more poodle in her genes

Is yours retriever cross? What do you call her mix?

That’s my other bugbear, people calling retriever x poodles “golden doodles”.

The ‘d’ comes from Labrador, (labradoodle), it’s a golden retroodle! Golden doodle is meaningless! 🤣 argh!

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:55

Dreamskies · 15/09/2024 06:45

Is yours retriever cross? What do you call her mix?

That’s my other bugbear, people calling retriever x poodles “golden doodles”.

The ‘d’ comes from Labrador, (labradoodle), it’s a golden retroodle! Golden doodle is meaningless! 🤣 argh!

Mine is actually classed as a double doodle as she has a little lab in her too, but shes mostly GR and standard poodle. I do get what you mean about the names though. I think in America they sometimes call golden doodles "groodles" which makes more sense! I just tell people what her mix is rather than calling her a name. I posted about this before but I recently met a man with a rescue dog and I asked his breed. He said "well, he's apparently a jack Russell/shih tzu, so basically he's a jack shit" 😂😂

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 07:01

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 06:33

I bet your big doodle girl is gorgeous, she sounds very cute and characterful. I think if I had a doodle I'd keep it long and shaggy too. I love breeds like Otterhounds, Briards and unclipped Bouviers because of their shaggy faces.

For you, @AubrieDog

To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds
AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 07:39

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 06:43

Thank you, I think she's gorgeous! I'm taking her to a fun local dog show today, so I'll see if anybody else agrees!

Ohhh! Have fun!!! Hope you win something but you still get to take the best dog home at the end of the day anyway.

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 07:40

@CellophaneFlower She is gorgeous!!! Thank you 😘

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 07:48

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 07:39

Ohhh! Have fun!!! Hope you win something but you still get to take the best dog home at the end of the day anyway.

Thank you! Unless she shows me up... then I might leave her there 😂

F0urt33n · 15/09/2024 07:53

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 06:24

I actually pointed that out, earlier in the thread.

HTH

Then don’t use it as your main point against doodle breeders. It’s a non argument. Most breeders do it for money.

sashh · 15/09/2024 08:02

ginsterloo · 14/09/2024 02:37

You do know labradors are originally a mixed breed don't you? As are German Shepherds, Dalmatians, Dachshund and tens of other breeds but of course a reputable breeder wouldn't tell you that would they?

I love dog snobbery, the temperament, disposition, obedience etc of any particular dog is more down to training that it is the breed, mixed, pure, mongrel or whatever Hyacinth Bucket wants to call them

Edited

I disagree. People who have 'working' dogs as pets sill tell you.

Labs and GR dogs retrieve, they will happily carry things around whether you want them to or not.

Border collies try to round people up, chickens, traffic.

As for Ozzie Kelpies, has anyone ever seen another type of dog walk along on the back of sheep?

Yes all dogs need to be trained but there are reasons certain breeds are used for certain jobs.

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 08:12

F0urt33n · 15/09/2024 07:53

Then don’t use it as your main point against doodle breeders. It’s a non argument. Most breeders do it for money.

I didn't.
No they don't.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 08:16

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 06:26

Ummm, actually no. Purebred dogs don't look identical, what an odd statement. 8 of mine have been the same breed but they all looked very different.

I missed this earlier! Identical was the wrong word, I just meant that you can instantly recognise the breed and you know what you're going to end up with when you buy a certain breed, bar markings etc. Obviously your own dogs will be familiar to you but a stranger that's seen them a few times probably wouldn't be able to recognise them in a group of the same breed.

F0urt33n · 15/09/2024 08:16

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 08:12

I didn't.
No they don't.

You have consistently and they do because they charge for the puppies they produce just like doodle breeders do.

cheezncrackers · 15/09/2024 08:20

YANBU. I know several people with one. None have ever owned a dog before. Actually, one has. My DB and his DW have one. He wanted 'a proper dog' and she wanted a silly little fluffy thing. He calls it a 'non-dog dog'. It's utterly neurotic and pisses on the floor when it gets excited. Mind you, I know some proper dogs that do that too.

chiccachicca · 15/09/2024 08:29

I’ve NC’d for this as it’s very outing.

Our cockapoo came from a breeder - she was a F1. We had to have her PTS a couple of months ago because she bit our DC and went for my DH.

It was one of the worse times for us as a family but I know the right decision. Our vets explained we were not the only family to experience this and wouldn’t be the last.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 08:35

chiccachicca · 15/09/2024 08:29

I’ve NC’d for this as it’s very outing.

Our cockapoo came from a breeder - she was a F1. We had to have her PTS a couple of months ago because she bit our DC and went for my DH.

It was one of the worse times for us as a family but I know the right decision. Our vets explained we were not the only family to experience this and wouldn’t be the last.

How old was she? Had she always showed signs of aggression? If out of the blue, it's possible she was in pain or had an undiagnosed medical condition. I don't think it's fair to say she was aggressive as she's a cockapoo.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 08:37

cheezncrackers · 15/09/2024 08:20

YANBU. I know several people with one. None have ever owned a dog before. Actually, one has. My DB and his DW have one. He wanted 'a proper dog' and she wanted a silly little fluffy thing. He calls it a 'non-dog dog'. It's utterly neurotic and pisses on the floor when it gets excited. Mind you, I know some proper dogs that do that too.

You realise everybody has to have a first dog, right? Most poodle mixes aren't particularly difficult dogs to have as a first dog.