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To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 21:26

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

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TeenLifeMum · 11/09/2024 22:08

We got a cocker spaniel sitting 2020 - totally planned and enabled by dh wfh. Chose the breed after researching and he’s perfect for our family. Neighbour got a cockerpoo the same time and told me we’d made an error and would have been better off with a cockerpoo… 4 years later his dog barks continually when they leave him (every day for work) and ours is totally chilled around the house and only goes bonkers in walks but has great recall.

DillDanding · 11/09/2024 22:08

I have a friend that has a cockerpoo, another that has an Australian labradoodle and another that has a ‘double doodle’ whatever the fuck that is. All of them are gorgeous dogs and cost at least £1k more than my KC registered pedigree dog! 🥴

Zanatdy · 11/09/2024 22:08

Well I have a cockapoo and adore him. But I do agree with some of what you say. He is sadly paying the price for being the results of so called hobby breeding. He has hereditary glaucoma. Not suggesting the breeders deliberately breed knowing there were problems as my cockapoo was 6 when his glaucoma became apparent, so they probably found out after they’d brought 30 plus puppies into the world. My son recently purchased a pedigree dog, and whilst I don’t agree with some pedigree breeding either, the difference was massive. This woman had 30yrs of breeding experience. She was breeding largely for the love of it, and the pride of producing award winning puppies. She provided endless support after purchase, and continues to do so 1yr on. My so called breeder never replied to any messages after I took him home.

So anyone wanting any dog, ensure health tests are done, especially if you’re paying high prices. The breeders are making enough to pay for the tests, no excuses. Don’t make the same mistake I made by assuming as they are a cross breed (not a mongrel) that they don’t do health tests as they can still do them obviously on both pedigree parents. I decided last minute to get a cockapoo instead of a pedigree breed so didn’t do my research. I adore my cockapoo though, and will obviously love and care for him his whole life.

As OP mentioned they can have behaviour issues, namely resource guarding, but most of them are pretty friendly dogs. But don’t assume they don’t come with some issues as that can definitely be a problem (isn’t with mine but I’ve always swapped anything he stole as a puppy with a small piece of treat and made no fuss). They also cost a lot in grooming, time too. Mine needs to be groomed every 7wks and even then I’m usually cutting matts out, especially when the weather is wet and muddy. Mine isn’t hyperactive, but many can be. They have become very popular, largely due to their cute teddy bear look. But do your research people.

BotterMon · 11/09/2024 22:10

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:03

Cockatoos are really easy to train due to both parents being high on the intelligence list. Our girl is so clever, she’s a joy to be around and the perfect size .She was our first dog and sooo easy to train.

I agree. Cockatoos are easy to train 😂

Reputable breeders don't breed mongrels. I have nothing against mixed breed dogs; my DD has a lovely one however he is not a designer breed and that is, like the OP, what I take umbrage to. There are exceptions however when their owners treat them like a dog and not the latest fashion.

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:10

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:07

You do not own an actual breed though. MNers hate this fact but to be frank you own a glorified mongrel. Why not get one of the breeds that your dog is mixed with? If a labradoodle get a Labrador etc - a doodle or poo mix certainly is not the only dog who is going to tick your boxes.

Couldn’t hive a shit if she is a mongrel
or a breed. Why would we? She’s gorgeous, a joy and part of the family. Don’t want a show cocker or a poodle , we wanted and adore our cockapoo who is perfect.

HangingOver · 11/09/2024 22:10

My favourite dog on earth is my friends cockapoo. She so sweet and loving. Excellent recall. Doesn't pay attention to other dogs. Dream dog really. About as clever as a box of hair though 😂

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:12

PangolinPan · 11/09/2024 22:03

My perception is that people believe a pedigree of any sort is likely to have health issues so a cross will have better health and temperament.

I believe a lot of that attitude is people not wanting to pay for a responsibly bred pedigree. Health testing for hereditary problems etc comes with a price.

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F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:13

BotterMon · 11/09/2024 22:10

I agree. Cockatoos are easy to train 😂

Reputable breeders don't breed mongrels. I have nothing against mixed breed dogs; my DD has a lovely one however he is not a designer breed and that is, like the OP, what I take umbrage to. There are exceptions however when their owners treat them like a dog and not the latest fashion.

Ours was a very reputable breeder and I’d rather have a mixed breed so you can take umbrage all you like. Don’t care. 🤷‍♀️

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:14

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:13

Ours was a very reputable breeder and I’d rather have a mixed breed so you can take umbrage all you like. Don’t care. 🤷‍♀️

Again, good breeders don’t breed mixes.

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HangingOver · 11/09/2024 22:14

Also, she doesn't really smell at all compared to other dogs. It's weird. I have friends with much shorter hair dogs that stink but even when her fur is quite long she only seems to smell when wet.

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:16

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:14

Again, good breeders don’t breed mixes.

Ours does.

And yes yes yo the no shedding, non smell. Added bonus to her gorgeousness .

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:16

DustyLee123 · 11/09/2024 21:29

They are paying more for a cross breed than a pedigree with health testing.

Looking at some of the doodle prices near us people are paying the same for a mongrel as what I paid for our KC registered golden retriever with excellent lineage and health tested parents. It’s madness

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:18

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:16

Ours does.

And yes yes yo the no shedding, non smell. Added bonus to her gorgeousness .

All dogs smell to some extent, you’ve just gone nose blind to it. Much nicer, proper non shedding breeds are out there.

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BloodandGlitter · 11/09/2024 22:19

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:16

Ours does.

And yes yes yo the no shedding, non smell. Added bonus to her gorgeousness .

Then she's a back yard breeder. No lineage to trace back for many many generations to track full health of all the dogs and removal of any that don't meet high standards from the breeding line.
I bet they make a fortune too. Most BYBs make huge amounts from absolute idiots over paying for a dog with unknown history and health.

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:21

Savoretti · 11/09/2024 21:49

Everyone loves them because of their ‘teddy bear’ looks but generally they are very needy and hate being left alone, also rather manic

I’m honestly not a fan of their look, it’s quite scruffy to me!

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:22

BloodandGlitter · 11/09/2024 22:19

Then she's a back yard breeder. No lineage to trace back for many many generations to track full health of all the dogs and removal of any that don't meet high standards from the breeding line.
I bet they make a fortune too. Most BYBs make huge amounts from absolute idiots over paying for a dog with unknown history and health.

👏

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IamnotwhouthinkIam · 11/09/2024 22:23

YABU. Most “poo” breeds have no worse or better health or behaviour than any pedigree breeds. It’s mostly dependent on the owner and whether they find a good puppy trainer in the first place. And all pedigree breeds were mixed breeds way, way back - whos to say some of the “poo’s” won’t count as a separate (possibly renamed) pedigree breed in the future?

I’ve had mixed breeds - mostly “poo’s” as well as pedigree gun dogs breeds and terriers over the years (mainly rehomes). Health was no different, it’s a bit pot luck and while training the gun dog breeds was generally easier (as expected) the “poo’s” weren’t any more difficult than the stubborn terriers!

Wheelz46 · 11/09/2024 22:23

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:16

Looking at some of the doodle prices near us people are paying the same for a mongrel as what I paid for our KC registered golden retriever with excellent lineage and health tested parents. It’s madness

How did pure bred dogs come about?

Poggishairtufts · 11/09/2024 22:23

Aka mongrels

tillyandmilly · 11/09/2024 22:24

Because they look like teddy bears! I would love any doodle dog but sadly live in a flat!

Csdrassticcallychanginngnnammes · 11/09/2024 22:25

We have a miniature poodle. We cut her the same all over, so she looks like a normal dog. Everyone thinks she’s a cockapoo or a cavapoo. Instead we have a properly bred dog, who doesn’t have any health or behaviour issues. Poodles don’t shed, they are loving, obedient, very intelligent, easy to train and calm.

F0urt33n · 11/09/2024 22:25

BloodandGlitter · 11/09/2024 22:19

Then she's a back yard breeder. No lineage to trace back for many many generations to track full health of all the dogs and removal of any that don't meet high standards from the breeding line.
I bet they make a fortune too. Most BYBs make huge amounts from absolute idiots over paying for a dog with unknown history and health.

😂 You couldn’t get less of a back yard breeder if you tried- Kennel club registered parents with an extensive list of health checks, lovely place of birth ( was worried she’d think she was slumming it at our house)with superb socialisation producing the end result of a very happy, friendly and healthy dog.

Waystation · 11/09/2024 22:26

I have a cockerpoo he is nearly 8 and the best dog - affectionate, happy, amazing temperament and very dog clever - everyone in our village loves him - he is just a total sweetie! Oddly enough while walking in the forest today I was thinking how well behaved he was compared to some of the dogs we met! So what if he is a mongrel I don’t care and I don’t love him any less. As for why I got him - I saw one and thought to myself that’s the happiest looking dog I have ever seen! I feel I’m so lucky to have him. PP who are obviously offended by this type of dog please take an eye roll from me!

user1471556818 · 11/09/2024 22:28

The problem with them is that there are no rules .Horrible people can breed these poor dogs non stop from a younger age to an older age .The kennel club definitely hasn't done certain breeds any favours but does prevent this.
I've seen some absolutely fantastic ones and some that are sadly just mental .

Ohmychristdawn · 11/09/2024 22:28

They're the equivalent of grey interiors.

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