To think this is terrorism?

[Sitdownrosa]

All these EDL knuckleheads rioting in the streets is just terrorism? They're terrorists.

"unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"a terrorist organization"

Yes it's right wing terrorism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

Rioting and looting, violence already are offences.

Im worried about classing this as terrorism.

In think it could be the start of banning protests. Theres already laws to charge people with what’s been happening.

And will this work both ways? Stampers has already been labelled as two tier Keir..

Two tier Kier 😂

These are not 'protests'. A few years ago these thugs would have been kicking people's heads in at football matches.
A few weeks ago a white man killed three women with a crossbow. where were these concerned citizens then?

And will this work both ways?

It already does.

But terrorists are brown doncha know.

No, they're not protests. How is smashing shop windows and throwing bricks going to 'get our country back'?

They're just violent, male thugs.

And it is terrorism as the intention is to cause fear and terror in the belief that their demands will be met as a result.

That's what terrorism is.

Absolutely. Was not impressed by Starmer’s ‘Let’s call them what they are - thugs’. They’re not thugs, they’re terrorists. Thugs is what we call people who commit acts of terror in the name of ideology when they’re white, apparently.

Now that you've given it a neat little label @Sitdownrosa , what does it mean for the country? What are the next steps?

If these lot are terrorists, how do we deal with or refuse their demands? Do we proscribe organisations to try and combat it? Do we silence Tommy Robinson , sit down with Elon Musk as a government to try and combat the spread of misinformation on X (formerly Twitter) ...

Your terrorist post is nice, and I see what you're trying to do, but without context or depth, you're just applying an empty label.

Perhaps some of them are basic thugs, but they're being incited to terroristic acts by the people deliberately orchestrating the riots. The latter are who should receive the most severe punishment, but unfortunately may evade justice.

These are not protests, these are riots, looting, arson, creating terror.

Two tier Keir is a right wing slur from those supporting the fascists. We see you.

Not sure about terrorism but this is male violence and we need to name it as such.

I don't know what the answer is right at this moment but you can't solve a problem until you can name it so it's not an empty label.

I mean, I know what we consider to be appropriate ways to deal with terrorists when they live in other countries!

And this brings what to the discussion?
Showing yourself there.

I think it came out that he and his convicted murderer brother were Moroccan/North African :/

White man kills women:
Troubled, mentally ill, incel culture, let's interview all his neighbours so they can say what a nice guy he was.

He might be genuinely 'two tier' if the people inciting this terrorism aren't prosecuted and sentenced as such, I suppose.

Tommy Robinson should get the same sentence as Anjem Choudhry, we can’t have a two tier system for inciting crimes. As for Musk, he’s in a different jurisdiction with his own anti-Starmer agenda. If people vote with their feet and leave X it will hit his advertising revenue. It’s a cesspool of racism anyway.

There's a lot of females getting stuck in too if you watch the footage. Or just hanging around watching and encouraging

@L1ttledrummergirl I thought the play on words amusing it shows me as nothing!!

And it bumped the thread from yesterday.

Are there really lots of riot planned today, or are the papers scaremongering?. I'm feeling uneasy about it all.

@Longma

Anything like this that means that a group(s) of society are too afraid to go about their daily business must surely be a form of terrorism.

Absolutely!