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To think this is terrorism?

101 replies

Sitdownrosa · 04/08/2024 19:49

All these EDL knuckleheads rioting in the streets is just terrorism? They're terrorists.

"unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"a terrorist organization"

OP posts:
HarrietPierce · 07/08/2024 11:40

Ponoka7 ·
"But the points are that when the pro Palestine marches took place and Jewish people had to get off the streets of London, they wasn't described as terrorists."

There were loads of Jewish people on the Pro Palestine Anti genocide marches. And in the main they were very peaceful.

OneTC · 07/08/2024 11:43

I don't call this terrorism because it's already got a name. This is race or religious rioting. That's pretty fucking serious and the meaning already conveys much of what terrorism conveys.

People turning over Greggs and Lush aren't terrorists, they're criminals that are exploiting the overall situation. People fighting the police aren't terrorists, they're rioters.

There is some level of organiser that I would start to consider a terrorist, but they're most likely to go unpunished in the whole shit show anyway

wastingtimeonhere · 07/08/2024 11:44

Why would there be lists of towns/ cities, surely spontaneous protests riots make more sense, police will be waiting for them..not the sharpest are they...
The previous comment about waiting for arrivals on the beaches, would they be a shaven headed version of dad's army? St George flag draped over shoulders instead of army green..

Jadedbuthappy82 · 07/08/2024 11:54

Wow. I despair at how blinkered so many people are. Clearly all daily mail readers being totally sucked in to the narrative and clearly agenda 🤦🏼 Just wow. And if the Bournemouth resident is really oblivious to the sheer level of non-white British violence and aggression in the town, then there's nothing I can say to convince anyone. Good luck with it all when the blinkers comes off, by then it will be far too late.

Usercyzabc · 07/08/2024 11:58

Jadedbuthappy82 · 07/08/2024 11:54

Wow. I despair at how blinkered so many people are. Clearly all daily mail readers being totally sucked in to the narrative and clearly agenda 🤦🏼 Just wow. And if the Bournemouth resident is really oblivious to the sheer level of non-white British violence and aggression in the town, then there's nothing I can say to convince anyone. Good luck with it all when the blinkers comes off, by then it will be far too late.

It already is too late this is primitive tribal war. So much for advanced civilisation.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 07/08/2024 12:04

Jadedbuthappy82 · 07/08/2024 11:54

Wow. I despair at how blinkered so many people are. Clearly all daily mail readers being totally sucked in to the narrative and clearly agenda 🤦🏼 Just wow. And if the Bournemouth resident is really oblivious to the sheer level of non-white British violence and aggression in the town, then there's nothing I can say to convince anyone. Good luck with it all when the blinkers comes off, by then it will be far too late.

I'm hardly oblivious to much in the town I was born in and have lived in for 55 years (which makes me Gen X and not a boomer, not that I like those terms but am just pre-empting any further assumptions). I have been community active and a business owner for the last 7 years.

The most recent murder was white on white. The stabbing before that was white on white.

Our town is very very diverse and usually pretty peaceful.

I mean if you want to discuss our corrupt council, our boarded up town centre and 101 other things that are absolutely unrelated to the subject at hand but reflect geopolitical and economic changes that are absolutely sod all to do with immigration of any sort I'll happily chew your ear off. But from direct lived experience we're not a hotbed of racially motivated violence either way.

Grannywithnoplanny · 07/08/2024 12:04

beguilingeyes · 07/08/2024 09:30

But terrorists are brown doncha know.

100% this. This is rioting, attacking people with non white skin, setting fire to things including a hotel believed to be full of asylum seekers. It is designed to install fear and hatred, create division, and inflame others to join in. No way would this be called anything but terrorism if the people doing it were not white.

L1ttledrummergirl · 07/08/2024 12:05

Jadedbuthappy82 · 07/08/2024 11:54

Wow. I despair at how blinkered so many people are. Clearly all daily mail readers being totally sucked in to the narrative and clearly agenda 🤦🏼 Just wow. And if the Bournemouth resident is really oblivious to the sheer level of non-white British violence and aggression in the town, then there's nothing I can say to convince anyone. Good luck with it all when the blinkers comes off, by then it will be far too late.

Grin You've been properly sucked in.

I can assure you I'm not the person blinkered in this conversation.

TheNoonBell · 07/08/2024 12:18

Labelling rioters as terrorists is only going to inflame a very tense situation even more.

BetterTheDevlinYouKnow · 07/08/2024 12:21

Paul2023 · 07/08/2024 10:55

I hope that not aimed at me because I will report you. That’s slander and I will take that further if aimed at me.

It's definitely not slander.
Not even libel.
Paul2023 is hardly your real name is it?
Perhaps familiarise yourself with the law regarding defamation before making empty threats.
Pressing the report button here doesn't quite make the bar for claims of "taking it further" and legal action.

Paul2023 · 07/08/2024 13:04

BetterTheDevlinYouKnow · 07/08/2024 12:21

It's definitely not slander.
Not even libel.
Paul2023 is hardly your real name is it?
Perhaps familiarise yourself with the law regarding defamation before making empty threats.
Pressing the report button here doesn't quite make the bar for claims of "taking it further" and legal action.

Ok I’ll let you have your opinion. Did I say I’d report it on here ?

Paul2023 · 07/08/2024 13:15

I don’t think people should be called fascists for no reason other than expressing their opinion and people should chose their language carefully.

SallyWD · 07/08/2024 13:22

Honestly, I know so many brown skinned people who aren't leaving the house. They're living in fear. This is absolutely terrorism.

LaeralSilverhand · 07/08/2024 13:37

Poetnojo · 07/08/2024 11:26

Yes
Police stations 🤨
White owned businesses, with people inside.
Making white people kneel before them and beg forgiveness for being white
Terrorising people on streets, eating in restaurants etc etc etc
That terrorising enoght for you?

None of this happened, the worst they did was lob a statue of a slaver into Bristol harbour.

Sitdownrosa · 07/08/2024 16:05

SallyWD · 07/08/2024 13:22

Honestly, I know so many brown skinned people who aren't leaving the house. They're living in fear. This is absolutely terrorism.

My brother in law is Spanish and works in a large uk city where they're expecting more terrorism from these thugs. He's been told to work from home because these racist idiots are very likely to attack him as soon as they see his appearance and hear a foreign accent.

OP posts:
BetterTheDevlinYouKnow · 07/08/2024 16:07

Paul2023 · 07/08/2024 13:04

Ok I’ll let you have your opinion. Did I say I’d report it on here ?

Edited

I don't need your permission to express the view that you don't know defamation law.
I've no idea where you think you can report a pp expressing what seems to be an honest opinion. No crime committed. That sounds like bluster.

But just in case @L1ttledrummergirl Don't tell him your name Pike!

SallyWD · 07/08/2024 16:13

Sitdownrosa · 07/08/2024 16:05

My brother in law is Spanish and works in a large uk city where they're expecting more terrorism from these thugs. He's been told to work from home because these racist idiots are very likely to attack him as soon as they see his appearance and hear a foreign accent.

It's absolute stupidity. Can't think of any other explanation.

biscuitandcake · 07/08/2024 16:13

Poetnojo · 07/08/2024 11:26

Yes
Police stations 🤨
White owned businesses, with people inside.
Making white people kneel before them and beg forgiveness for being white
Terrorising people on streets, eating in restaurants etc etc etc
That terrorising enoght for you?

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Poetnojo · 07/08/2024 20:38

The point I made was about BLM. BLM did all the things I mentioned and more.

Poetnojo · 07/08/2024 20:40

LaeralSilverhand · 07/08/2024 13:37

None of this happened, the worst they did was lob a statue of a slaver into Bristol harbour.

You are saying BLM did none of the things I mentioned? Were you living under a rock?

LaeralSilverhand · 07/08/2024 22:13

Poetnojo · 07/08/2024 20:40

You are saying BLM did none of the things I mentioned? Were you living under a rock?

Point me to one news story where any of what you mentioned happened. You can’t.

L1ttledrummergirl · 07/08/2024 22:21

Of course they can't. It's bollocks that's been spread by racists.

BetterTheDevlinYouKnow · 07/08/2024 22:28

I don't recall reading about anyone being forced to beg forgiveness because they are white.
Let's see the newspaper report on that one.
If a genuine source from a UK paper turns up I'll ...erm...eat my signed Jurgen Klopp footie shirt.

LaeralSilverhand · 07/08/2024 22:28

L1ttledrummergirl · 07/08/2024 22:21

Of course they can't. It's bollocks that's been spread by racists.

Or they’ll post something random from another country that has zero to do with the BLM protests in the U.K.

SallyWD · 07/08/2024 22:30

BetterTheDevlinYouKnow · 07/08/2024 22:28

I don't recall reading about anyone being forced to beg forgiveness because they are white.
Let's see the newspaper report on that one.
If a genuine source from a UK paper turns up I'll ...erm...eat my signed Jurgen Klopp footie shirt.

Exactly, what nonsense.