Russell Brand - everyone knew

[Mooshamoo]

I was watching the comedian Katherine Ryan say to Louis theroux that a British comedian is a sexual perpetrator. It is now believed that she was talking about Russell brand. She said on the video "when it eventually comes out about these type of people, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, this unmentionable British personality, it turns out that everyone knew. Everyone knew. ".

I was wondering did anyone on here on mumsnet know anything about Russell brand? A lot of us lived in London when her was living there. And many women on here would have been a similar age to Russell brand . I lived in London for a year and I saw Russell brand out on a night out once. That was the extent of it. I was wondering did anyone on here have any experience with him, or know about a friend/acquaintance that had any experiences with him.

This is the thing isn't it. Was he using women and probably a bit of a prick? Or was he a rapist? Because the former doesn't necessarily mean the latter is true.

It doesn’t but some men straddle that line very carefully, pushing boundaries in a way that would make it difficult to evidence lack of consent but where consent isn’t clear or isn’t given. A hand around the throat, pushing too far with oral sex, joking about their sexual preferences so when a woman says “I didn’t agree to that” they can argue she knew the nature of the man and went so far with him anyway. These men know exactly what they’re doing.

Threesome, does not have to have any form of gay element to the act, it can be three people taking part in a consensual sexual act.

I think there's definitely a bisexual element to two women getting naked and having sex with the same man.

Did he sexually assault the other 20% who said no, and then apologise to them after the fact??

This makes absolutely no sense in the context of the post quoted.

Logic all over the place

Of course there’s an extremely clear distinction between being a) a rapist and b) not being a rapist but being promiscuous and a knob

That’s not to say being promiscuous and being a rapist are mutually exclusive.

But conflating the two as one and the same is wrong – in several senses.

That is an opinion, but if either party of the same sex do not have sex, kiss, or touch in a sexual manner, does that make them bi-sexual? What about group sex, are they all bi-sexual by taking part, yet having sex with the opposite sex?

Maybe ask on the incel site you’ve sprang from?

In your opinion... But not in mine.

Because he’s getting off on this.

Also, just not very bright.

That's my opinion too 😂

Wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. Concentrating on the possible criminal aspects of his behaviour is to miss the point entirely

Please can you explain your comment, I do not understand your reply.

We are all entitled to our opinions.

Thank you.

I’m sorry Bot. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

Does not compute.

Error. Error.

Too much input.

Insert more RAM, store space exceeded.

Please apply women's emotional labour to resolve the malfunction.

Sorry, that is another of your replies, that does not compute with me.... Syntax error... Reboot systems... Update available.

Definitely

I felt his video 'statement' was very telling and probably reviewed and edited by his legal team. Note he says all of his 'relationships' were consensual. He never says all of the sexual acts within those relationships were consensual. Verbal gymnastics. Women may consensually enter into a 'relationship' with him but this is very different to all of the sexual acts that occur in that relationship being consensual.

I thought the father's statement very telling indeed. The apple clearly doesn't fall far from the tree.

Where was his mother, could she not of protected and shielded him from his father?

No agree that Brand's father seems to be unpleasant. His son's behaviour seems narcissistic and a lot of narcissistic men have very nasty fathers. It is the only sympathy I have for Russell Brand at all,

Sounds like a shit threesome.

Or are you 'asking for a friend'?

Not everyone has a lovely botmum like you.

This extract from the recent Sunday Times article might give an insight into what happened to women who told Brand they didn't want a threesome:

"Nadia says Brand took her to a wall and kissed her and made a comment, something along the lines of: “I’ll keep you safe.” He then told her that “a friend” was already in the bedroom and that he wanted her to join them, according to Nadia.
“I’m like, no, that’s not happening, I don’t care, that’s not happening, we’re not doing that,” she says. “I tried to get away from him and I slipped away from the wall. And then I went to another wall that had a painting on it. A huge painting. And my bag got actually stuck underneath that, and it’s still on my arm. And at this point he’s grabbing at my underwear, pulling it to the side.”
Nadia alleges that she told Brand to get off her and that she wanted to leave, but he carried on. “I’m stuck underneath the painting and he’s pushing up against me,” she says. “He’s a lot taller than me. And he has that glazed look in his eye again. And I can’t move. And I told him, ‘Get off, get off.’” Nadia claims that Brand pushed her up against the wall and raped her, without a condom."