Karen advert

[IncognitoMam]

This shouldn't be allowed surely? Who comes up with this shit?
I'm not called Karen but I know Karen's that hate their name now because of the way it's used.

Literally this!

Historically being the key word.

Funnily enough @DeeCee77 I manage to deplor both racism and misogyny.

As a decent human being fighting against both has always been part of my cultural and social baggage.

What colour are the posters on this thread? What colour am I?

Threads like this just perpetuate the misogyny. I hope it gets taken down.

I’m fucking sick of it, I really am, and I certainly wouldn’t be using any company that perpetuates this term. Regardless of its origin.

Oh dear. Don't you understand?

The term should also not have been misappropriated to be used as it has in the UK. Do you think misogyny is ok? I'm sure the answer must be no.

But it’s not Karen from Croydon who’s misappropriating the term, is it? It’s millions of (mainly, but not exclusively, male) people all over the internet who have now taken that term to apply to any middle aged woman who isn’t sufficiently submissive.

Funnily enough @DeeCee77 I manage to deplor both racism and misogyny

Yes, exactly.

The Karen thing annoys me no end. It's an insult to all women over the age of 30, intended to shut us down.

Oh piss off

I don't know about the historical basis for this name calling. I've just googled it though and it referred to female white privilege, but from what I've observed it's used against a woman as a form of disrespect and to say the woman 'llacks intelligence' .

I've been called a 'Karen' by another woman simply because I disagreed with their point of view and I'm black so how does that make sense.

I wonder where all this nonsense is coming from?

In any case taking a person's name and using it to attribute a certain characteristic to it is disrespectful and discriminatory.

It's a form of bullying and it's also misogynist.

It's become a trend that ignorant people tend to use when they want to disrespect a female and it needs to stop.

I'm actually glad this is being highlighted. I was wondering if I was the only one who found this 'trend' disturbing.

*lacks intelligence..

It has moved on to be an ignorant term used by ignorant people as a means to shut middle age women down.

It may have its origins in the US, but it how become a common derogatory slur here in the UK. Unfortunately.

I thought it would go away, but I still hear it often.

Time magazine article on The Karen, the racist white american woman.

How the 'Karen Meme' Confronts the Violent History of White Womanhood

https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/

"Internet shorthand ... for a particular kind of racial violence white women have instigated for centuries—following a long and troubling legacy of white women in the country weaponizing their victimhood."

Exactly this. It's vile.

Someone will be along to explain it better than me but 'Karen' is really misogynistic age-ist shite. I can't believe anyone thought it was appropriate

Fully agree. It's a tool for silencing women. I'd like to complain, but they'd just see it ironic. Hence the silencing..

DeeCee, we KNOW the origins of the bloody term. Stop hitting us with C&P shit!

I don’t think so the advert is there still

It shouldn’t get to stay whilst threads get deleted

Deecee, Could you try interacting instead of just posting articles that don't tell us anything new and which don't relate to the context that we're discussing and ignoring everything we say? If I wanted to have a conversation with Wikipedia I would.

Amen.

The Karen meme is not doing this

It’s just misogyny

Ffs give it a rest!! We aren't in the US, I'm not even in the UK but the usage of the word Karen means the same thing here. You are just derailing the thread for your own agenda.

@DeeCee77 if the usage of the term had not in fact moved on and does not mean what we are all trying to tell you it now does, the original ad the OP is posting about would not have been made and would make no sense. But it was made and does make sense in the context that the phrase is now used. Everyone on here knows and understands the point you are repeatedly making, that the term originated in one context but language is mobile, dynamic and changes - otherwise "gay" would still mean skipping off merrily for a picnic with home made lemonade. Please can you try and engage with that instead of just posting more of the same?

@DeeCee77 Are you being disingenuous as you've had this explained multiple times now?

We're all aware of the source of the term 'karen' but this term has been hijacked, misappropriated, do you understand, to be used as a misogynistic term to be applied to women of a certain age, regardless of their skin colour (my sister in law, who is not white, middle-aged, has been called a Karen).