To think the adoration of Zelensky in the UK feels very wrong?

[WarWhatIsItGoodFor]

Exactly that. Why are UK politicians lapping it all up and hanging on to his every word? The laughter from MPs when he said he enjoyed English tea but now wants English planes… in what sense is that funny? He is wanting war planes to cause more bloodshed, death and destruction. I hope this doesn’t lead to Russian retaliation.

about bots:

TikTok Inc. identified a Russian disinformation network spreading war propaganda about Ukraine to more than a hundred thousand European users over the summer, the company disclosed on Thursday.

The network operated in Russia, but targeted mostly people in Germany, Italy and the UK in their respective languages. About 1,700 accounts belonging to the network were able to spread anti-Ukrainian messages by masquerading as accounts created by local users.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-09/tiktok-reveals-russian-disinfo-network-targeting-european-users#xj4y7vzkg

He is wanting war planes to cause more bloodshed, death and destruction.

oh yes, because we all know that Ukraine invaded Russia.

Look, none likes or wants war, but the Ukrainians have the right to defend their country, and the right to ask others to help them repel an invasion.

You have to be creative when a country one-third your size is kicking your arse on the battlefield.

:-D

If we had security interests in Ukraine, they would have an article 5 NATO guarantee. They don't because we don't. Instead we pay much higher energy and commodity prices because we gave them the idea we would give them NATO membership and military support and failed to deliver.

Who made this rule? The idea that any country that it's in the UK interests to arm would therefore have such a guarantee is a nonsensical leap.

Haven't RTFT yet but can't stand the guy or his cronies.

'masquerading as accounts created by local users'

Can you masquerade when it's obvious?

Considering all of the previous discussion that you apparently haven’t read we’ll just assume it’s Putin you can’t stand

YANBU
Zelensky is very good friends with Biden's son.
It's all political.
If we're not very careful we'll end up at war with Russia.
Take a moment to imagine how you would feel if your husband and young son(s) were called up.
Zelensky signed a death warrant when he ordered 16-60 year old boys/men to remain in the country and fight with basically nothing.
Some Ukrainians that I know categorically don't want interference from the West because they don't want it to escalate even further.

MyStarBoy
Zelensky is very good friends with Biden's son.

Whether or not Zelenskyy knows Hunter Biden or not, what has that to do with Russia invading Ukraine?

Honestly, some of the what aboutery is absolutely stunning.

Some Ukrainians that I know categorically don't want interference from the West because they don't want it to escalate even further.

Further than cities shelled to the ground and mass graves of civilians?

With bonus starvation and torture.

Alright Neville Chamberlain, you sit tight.

This is a new one for the bingo card.

Very good friends with Biden's son. Course he is, pet

Think you'll find that it's Putin signed their death warrant when he, y'know, invaded another sovereign land.

I haven't yet seen the "long live mother Russia, praise God for Putin" type posts though, the ones which come from outsourced troll farms in Nigeria or Bangladesh.

Where are you lot? My bingo card needs you!

For me Andrew Marr nails it - for the UK dark times lie ahead, the consequences of the war, for us are just beginning and whatever good times we had are coming to an end and there is nothing any of us can do about it. Grim times indeed.

Let's call it - what a bastard that Putin is to invade Ukraine.

I keep coming back to your wrong-headed post, OP, just to confirm with sinking heart that a third of respondents agree with you. I sincerely hope they are bots. This is a war of naked aggression, that Ukraine did not start, and we need to support Zelensky because if we don’t, Putin will not stop. It really is that simple.

Completely agree @humancalculator

I don’t hero-worship Zelenskyy or anything, but his courage at the start of Putin’s invasion was in stark contrast to our at-the-time PM, who’d’ve sold the UK to Putin at the first sign of aggression and fucked off to his Dad’s place in Greece.

It's safer to stop Putin now, by giving Ukraine the heavy equipment it needs.
If there's any kind of "peace " now, it's just an opportunity for Russia to rearm and reorganize. They won't stop you know. The invasion will recommence in a couple of years. They even refer to Poland and Finland as " our former countries". They were Russian Empire lands before
Kicking the can down the road leads to a much more dangerous future. Let them be defeated now in 2023, for a safer Europe.
And yes he's a total bastard.

I've observed the whole bot/shill thing awhile now, the first being some years ago now, the characteristic patterns of interactions, claims and observations. How they present 'evidence', the use of characteristic patterns of words and phrases etc.

I'd say that that there is a mix of genuine posters on this thread who really have doubts or disagree with supportin Ukraine, and a significant proportion of shills (shills rather than automated bots, who tend more to hang out on Twitter and elsewhere, but likely still a few here).

I can't face trawling through the thread to estimate proportions but I think there's a significant number... especially at this time as zelenskyy was just here. There is without doubt a concerted effort in this "hybrid warfare" by Russia to diss him.

Cool story bro.