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to warn you about this company offering solutions to child's anxiety and school refusal?

280 replies

Hols12345 · 30/07/2022 22:40

They advertise on Facebook as Young Vibes, Your Child Freedom Formula, Peaky Parents, Anxiety, Our Formula, and various other names.

They use a 'high ticket' sales technique, where they offer a webinar and then urge you to book a call. The call is a high-pressure sales call.

They have changed their name quite a few times over the last year, after they were investigated by the Advertising Standards agency - www.asa.org.uk/rulings/tomwill--holdings--ltd-g21-1116080-tomwill--holdings--ltd.html, and they were featured in a BBC radio 4 documentary www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000zt9y

There are a few threads on the child mental health boards - here's one. www.mumsnet.com/talk/child_adolescent_mental_health/4239684-your-child-freedom-formula-has-anyone-tried-it?page=1

On the threads there are people from 'both sides', including some who have been through the program, so it's well worth having a read if you are thinking of making the call.

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BruisedSkies · 01/08/2023 12:58

Well she doesn’t really believe autism exists anyway. It is recoverable isn’t a sentence that makes sense anyway. Her grammar is terrible.

TeenDivided · 04/08/2023 13:09

So what she is saying is that if you have an anxious child it my look a bit like autism but provided it isn't actually autism it is recoverable.

NettieRE · 06/12/2023 00:35

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NettieRE · 10/12/2023 23:04

We found this program to be highly unprofessional. Had a horrible experience after paying £5,000. People say look for help at the Charlie Waller Trust. Reach out if you have questions. Tired of posting about it as it is taking over my life but we had a horrible experience with this group. Well, that change their names so peaky parents, themumsnet, Satsie Thomas, Young Vibes. Traumatic. Aggravating.

KarenTHO · 16/12/2023 22:27

Thoughts on this quote calling therapists old and crusty? They use manipulative tactics to cast doubt on others as a way to distract from the fact that they have no formal education or qualifications for mental health care. Our child is now in therapy and loves it.

to warn you about this company offering solutions to child's anxiety and school refusal?
KarenTHO · 16/12/2023 22:28

Sam likes to blame the BBC but she does the damage to herself. The manuscript is beyond belief.

platinumplus · 17/12/2023 11:32

Why have all Sam's posts been deleted?

nothingcomestonothing · 17/12/2023 11:40

KarenTHO · 16/12/2023 22:27

Thoughts on this quote calling therapists old and crusty? They use manipulative tactics to cast doubt on others as a way to distract from the fact that they have no formal education or qualifications for mental health care. Our child is now in therapy and loves it.

Shock

Ageism, sexism, sneering at those with less financial means, she really is amazingly unprofessional. Well she would be, if she actually had a profession other than grifter.

TeenDivided · 17/12/2023 11:41

platinumplus · 17/12/2023 11:32

Why have all Sam's posts been deleted?

Don't know.

But this may be a good time to comment that she has set up yet another Branding / Website, this time called The Mum's Net www.themumsnet.com
If anyone thinks that is a coincidence and not meant to be confused with MN, then I've a treasure map I can sell you for £1million.

ParsnipPie · 17/12/2023 12:21

I hope real MumsNet have their legal team working on it quietly and efficiently

TeenDivided · 17/12/2023 12:42

ParsnipPie · 17/12/2023 12:21

I hope real MumsNet have their legal team working on it quietly and efficiently

MN are aware, or at least it has been reported to the moderators.

ParsnipPie · 17/12/2023 12:44

That’s good.

Perfectstorm72 · 17/12/2023 16:33

Yes for parent peer support across the country have a look at the PLACE network under the umbrella of Charlie Waller Trust. A network of local organisations run by parents of children and young people with lived experience of parenting a child through poor mental health Click here to see the PLACE network

PLACE - Parent Support Network | Charlie Waller

The PLACE Network aims to develop, promote, and sustain parent/carer support and involvement in children and young people’s mental health across the UK. Parents and carers with lived experience of supporting a child with mental health issues and profes...

https://charliewaller.org/place-parent-support

Perfectstorm72 · 17/12/2023 16:36

And it’s all free of charge 🫶🏼

randomusername2020 · 18/12/2023 23:41

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Tangarinedream · 19/12/2023 10:26

Has anybody gone to an MP? Has anybody gone to an attorney? Has there ever been a group lawsuit? Has anybody done an SAR request? Does this company record sessions?

3xteens · 19/12/2023 13:31

Tangarinedream · 19/12/2023 10:26

Has anybody gone to an MP? Has anybody gone to an attorney? Has there ever been a group lawsuit? Has anybody done an SAR request? Does this company record sessions?

They are meant to record sessions but then if you want to see them they dont send them (our experience).

Tangarinedream · 19/12/2023 13:39

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Tangarinedream · 19/12/2023 22:19

Thoughtless of me. Many of my questions would be better discussed in private.

3xteens · 20/12/2023 06:31

Tangarinedream · 19/12/2023 22:19

Thoughtless of me. Many of my questions would be better discussed in private.

Did MN take off your post? I missed the questions sorry.

User7474993 · 05/02/2024 22:17

I started doing this course because it was shown to help school refusal , I have school refusal and ASD the woman Sam the told me no one liked me at school and I have no friends , what the hell for someone that’s ment to help you go to school to say that is insane 😂

YourChirpyLilacWriter · 30/03/2025 21:43

They’re now operating under the name ‘Young Vibes’, it’s the same Sam and Martin Robbins running it. Wicked, selfish individuals.
Our child had a large, caked woman responsible for her who is unqualified and a bully. They mislead you under false pretences, claiming they can ‘fix’ your child.
It’s a pyramid scheme through and through and they report every bad review for ‘defamation’ so they look good at face value as they get their workers to leave good reviews under fake names.

Please, I urge you, stay vigilant and do not send your child here, they do more harm than good.

3xteens · 31/03/2025 19:04

User7474993 · 05/02/2024 22:17

I started doing this course because it was shown to help school refusal , I have school refusal and ASD the woman Sam the told me no one liked me at school and I have no friends , what the hell for someone that’s ment to help you go to school to say that is insane 😂

That's awful I hope you are being able to know them for what they are, bullies, and find other positive help. As a parent of adult children with ASD who could not get to school at lot of the time I know how hard that time can be and how hard it's impact can be on the future, especially when people like these stick their uneducated oar in.

3xteens · 31/03/2025 19:06

YourChirpyLilacWriter · 30/03/2025 21:43

They’re now operating under the name ‘Young Vibes’, it’s the same Sam and Martin Robbins running it. Wicked, selfish individuals.
Our child had a large, caked woman responsible for her who is unqualified and a bully. They mislead you under false pretences, claiming they can ‘fix’ your child.
It’s a pyramid scheme through and through and they report every bad review for ‘defamation’ so they look good at face value as they get their workers to leave good reviews under fake names.

Please, I urge you, stay vigilant and do not send your child here, they do more harm than good.

Young Vibes has been one of their names for a while now. Among other names. I too hope people considering them do their research. I wish we had!

YourChirpyLilacWriter · 02/06/2025 18:10

3xteens · 31/03/2025 19:06

Young Vibes has been one of their names for a while now. Among other names. I too hope people considering them do their research. I wish we had!

I’m sorry to hear you have suffered a similar fate. The woman we had is named India Cornelius Reid. We had Sam Robbins talk us through at the beginning and then she took the reins. Sad to learn she has no qualifications and is taking people for a ride. Just when you are on your last resort and want to do all you can for your child, you get met with these bullying scammers who take advantage of vulnerability and run with it. £5000 gone forever.