EU border entry requirements because of Brexit - need to prove you have £85 per day to spend

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In theory of course.

EU Border staff such as in Spain, can ask to check that you have enough spending money, a return ticket / onward ticket as well as all the passport checks ensuring it's in date, valid during your time in the EU and that you haven't been in the EU too long.

I guess they aren't doing this in full - but they have the right to. It's what we should be doing at UK immigration. Just so we know that people coming here can stay and aren't trying to sneak in for work.

This is what being a 3rd country out of the EU means. Before hand, at ferry ports, we were waved through or a brief scan. Potentially these checks will be time consuming.

And if the EU or any country in the EU wishes to make a point, this is what they can do.

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We do do this at uk immigration.

This is something EU countries can decide for themselves (because sovereignty) but yes, Leavers will probably whinge about it. It seems to be their default setting.

I believe we also do this so only reciprocating from the EU/Spain

See - I don't think we do at ferry ports. Maybe we do.

Can you imagine all the cars backed up because each passenger in a car is being checked in detail?

It must be a good thing though, it’s what people voted for.

Up to a country what they decide to do. Up to you where you choose to go on holiday.

Absolutely

Each country has a right to do detailed checks on people who want to enter their country,

And not just stamp their passport

It only is a concern if you turn up on a one way ticket usually, Spanish immigration were not concerned when I arrived a few months ago, too busy faffing with covid passes!

It says that in the OP...

Not Europe, but we have been asked to prove our intention to leave the country when entering on a one way ticket. Easy for us- we had a low cost carrier to a nearby country, and a flight home from there.

It's not new, but afaik it has always been possible to be asked for onward plans and/or proof of funds. But probably not affected UK passport holders on typical holiday routes before.

My mistake, no it doesn't😅

I don't think holiday makers on a package would be checked. Maybe the people who eek out an existence at a cheap campsite for the whole of the summer are the people the Spanish have in mind?

Obviously this is linked to the issues at Dover this weekend.

Before Brexit, passports were looked at but there was little bureaucracy. I don't think they had much right to do detailed checks - because we had EU passports.

But now, we are a 3rd country. No Schengen, No EU passports. So they have the right to do detailed checks on arrivals. Even on typical tourist routes.

I wouldn't blame the French if they decided to do full checks on each passenger at Dover just to see the impact on Dover. They could just say they were taking back control of their border and ensuring that people had the right to enter the EU and had sufficient funds for their stay

But lots of the people in the cars coming into the UK are British. So those won't need to be checked. They may well ask other tourists, as they can do at airports. There usually is some prompt for them to ask further questions, like not having a return ticket or a longer stay or whatever.

It's not EU countries "wanting to make a point", either. It's just them protecting their borders, the same as we do. Why shouldn't they? They don't need to make a point, they need to prevent people coming into their country that they don't want or isn't entitled to be there.

Can you imagine every car at Dover being checked in detail by French immigration?

It would make last weekend look like a 'walk in the park'

EU border entry requirements because of Brexit - need to prove you have £85 per day to spend.

In theory of course.

In theory they could make passengers open every piece of luggage and search it by hand. But they don't.

It probably would. But that's what people voted for.

They'll have to drastically reduce the availability of crossing and/or vastly increase the price of the ones that are left, in order to be able to cope with the length of time it takes to process the cars.

They will likely encourage tourism from within the EU instead, like people here will have to encourage more holidaying in the U.K.

It's a shame but that's what people wanted , much more control over who comes in or out

Anyone who's travelled to the US, Aus and Canada will be familiar with this.

I don't think we ask people coming here for the purposes of tourism from the EU to prove they have funds etc.

Imagine if the EU did similar? the chaos at EU borders would be insane, far more UK citizens holiday in Europe than the other way round.

Whats interesting is numbers going through Dover are 90,000 down on the same week in 2019....

clearly not enough forward planning by our Govt thats been in opposition.

Surely with banking apps these days this is a ten second task, also add with all more invasive customs checks, they will be applied at random or via a box to tick on a form before you go/on the plane. We drove across Europe in may, no issues whatsoever and no additional checks of any kind.

‘So they have the right to do detailed checks on arrivals’. It’s not exercising a right. It’s a requirement.

I must admit I'm surprised people used to just get waved through

I think there is doing immigration 'by the book' versus looking at the passport and letting someone in with a stamp.

If border controls to the EU were done by the book for UK arrivals at ferry ports, it could be very disruptive. Even just looking at a passport and stamping it takes time.

I travel to Spain (Valencia or Alicante) every month. Never seen such checks or police questioning anybody. In fact I was quite angry last week because the queue for Spanish and EU passports (police checks) was busier than the non-EU (electronic gates) so I moved queues and entered Spain on my Brit passport.
However, I happened to travel back to the UK on my Spanish passport on 2 Feb 2020 and was asked too many questions (did I have money, did I have accommodation, what would I be doing in the UK, again, did I have money, what did I want by coming to the UK, etc.) by an over zealous agent (and not very nice). Searched in my handbag for my Brit passport and the questions stopped. Lesson learned.

At Dover pre Brexit, they used to do that. Then it became a quick look.

Now we need a stamp. And potentially more detailed checks