EU border entry requirements because of Brexit - need to prove you have £85 per day to spend

[cakeorwine]

In theory of course.

EU Border staff such as in Spain, can ask to check that you have enough spending money, a return ticket / onward ticket as well as all the passport checks ensuring it's in date, valid during your time in the EU and that you haven't been in the EU too long.

I guess they aren't doing this in full - but they have the right to. It's what we should be doing at UK immigration. Just so we know that people coming here can stay and aren't trying to sneak in for work.

This is what being a 3rd country out of the EU means. Before hand, at ferry ports, we were waved through or a brief scan. Potentially these checks will be time consuming.

And if the EU or any country in the EU wishes to make a point, this is what they can do.

www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/spain-introduces-new-85-rule-for-british-holidaymakers-entering-country/ar-AAZVRVQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dde0bb90bf474bc3ad00ae5097ea7424

It's in the Daily Mail now

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11050391/Fury-UK-tourists-discover-prove-spend-85-day-enter-Spain.html

It is not just UK tourists but any tourist from a non EU or Schengen area.

It's what we can do as well.

It should come as no surprise.

And the Express

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1646265/eu-fury-brexit-news-spain-force-brits-85-pounds-daily-holiday-reaction

The impression is that the EU is punishing British holidaymakers because of Brexit.

No mention that the UK requires the same

The cognitive dissonance is amazing

The foreigners that run the EU have consistently set out to punish the English British. It is why we had to leave and take back control and such an excellent job of if Boris has done, just a shame a Remoaner plot to ambush him with cake and sexual predators has brought him down.

@cakeorwine This “story” is now in the Daily Fail which just goes to show what a load of crxp it is. I am not in denial. I have visited the EU twice in the past 12 months. It was scan and stamp. That’s it. Presumably the scanning does the checking at the same time. Otherwise, how do eGates work! Two more visits to the EU planned over the next two months. I’m sure it will be the same. I really don’t know what your problem is and why you are so hell bent on scaremongering.

@cakeorwine I have visited loads of countries around the World with similar rules. NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER BEEN ASKED FOR PROOF OF HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE ACCESS TO. Spain are not going to start asking 18 million U.K. visitors. They haven’t got time. I’m not sure what you think you are achieving out of this thread. I am quite aware of that U.K. is a third country as I’m sure everyone else is. The reality is that there are “third” countries and there are “third” countries. It’s why if you enter the U.K. from countries such as the US or Japan, you’re highly likely to be processed quickly. If you come in from a poorer nation (I am not going to give an example as I don’t want to offend anyone), you’re more likely to get more thorough checks. It’s a question of risk and immigration authorities all over the World do it. They have rules in case they need to rely on them, but that doesn’t mean that they will!

The impression is that the EU is punishing British holidaymakers because of Brexit.

No mention that the UK requires the same.

The cognitive dissonance is amazing.

To be fair, that's the impression you gave. After all you said, This is what being a 3rd country out of the EU means. And if the EU or any country in the EU wishes to make a point, this is what they can do.

I am sure that most people won't be asked.
But people could be asked. That's the point.

Pre Brexit - wouldn't have happened.

I love the outrage in the Mail and the Express and the headlines about Brits being punished by the EU.

Some people seem surprised that the rules to enter a EU country apply to the British.

Scaremongering?

Just pointing out what could happen.

Unless you don't think people should be aware of what could happen at EU border controls.

The UK Government have this on their website. I guess they are scaremongering as well?

It is a source of constant amazement to me that some people cannot grasp that now we are not in the EU, the benefits of membership no longer apply.

The fact is, the UK has now put in place its own immigration and tourism policies, so can EU member states for non EU countries.

The EU have bigger fish to fry, they have moved on from worrying about the UK and Brexit.

@cakeorwine Absolutely scaremongering. It’s clear you have an agenda and are trying to worry people to prove your point. Come back when you’ve been asked the question at the border. Anyone with half a brain would realise that Spain do not have the resources to start questioning 18 million tourists about how much money they have!

There are a lot of rules and regulations listed on the .Gov site that most people are probably not aware of. Why aren’t commenting on those?! Why this one?! As I said, an agenda!!!

It's particularly relevant given the chaos at Dover at the moment.

People shouldn't be worried. But it shouldn't come as a surprise if they get asked questions at the borders now.

Being forewarned is forearmed.

Unless you don't think information is useful to have when visiting a foreign country and the rules of entry have changed because of Brexit.

I mean - there are plenty of other changes that people need to be aware of when visiting the EU that have changed and that threads could be started about. Blue Badges, GHIC cards, data roaming, driving licenses, UK stickers on cars.....

Crikey never go to Israel then -admittedly back in 2001 but on our way leaving the country even before we got to the passport checking bit we were asked -
Where had we stayed
where had we visited, how had we got there, how did we work out how to get there (dead sea, hire car, we bought a map)
Did we speak to any Israelis - not really
Were we there as a couple. Yes - why were our surnames different - because we lived together not married
And on and on - bloke next to us was in major trouble as he couldn't answer the question -how long have you been married.
It was an excellent holiday - however weather at the Dead sea was awful!

I'm confused. Why've you tagged me?

@cakeorwine maybe you could start threads on all of those then! This thread isn’t about supplying information though is it….

But we don't have the Euro 🤷🏻‍♀️

What exactly is the point of this thread? You seem to be determined to whip up a frenzy. You explain something mildly irritating that could happen, people say they're aware it could happen, then you reiterate just how annoying it could be as though you're not satisfied with their assertion that they're not all that bothered. It has not come as a surprise to me, or many other people, that systems like this are being implemented post-Brexit - it was an obvious consequence of Brexit that even a hell of a lot of people who voted to leave the EU could see coming.

From my point of view, yes, it's a bit annoying, but I can't get worked up about it. I can afford to go abroad maybe once every five years as it is. Sympathies to people currently stuck in hellish queues, though.

Can you clarify for me, are the queues a bit annoying or hellish?

Absolute pain in the arse while stuck in them, but in the grand scheme of things a bit annoying.

I don't think people are aware this could happen.

Certainly not if you read the outrage in the Mail and the Express.

Still, people are aware now.

This has been in the news for the past few days. So it does seem to have come as a surprise to some people.

Also in The Sun as well

www.thesun.co.uk/travel/19314547/brits-travelling-to-spain-must-have-85/

The little-known rule has been in force since the start of this year, now that the UK falls under the "third country" category outside the European Union.
Surprised Brits reacted to the restriction on social media, shocked to discover that Spain can deny travellers with less money.
As the checks are only enforced occasionally, many had no idea they existed at all.

And the Daily Mirror

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brits-travelling-spain-must-prove-27568620

Brits have reacted in fury over having to prove they can spend £85 per day when travelling to Spain over the summer.
The Spanish government has released new rules stating tourists from the UK need to show they have enough money to enjoy their stay.

You’re referring to tabloid newspapers, an industry that is based on making something out of nothing. Sums up this thread nicely!!!

You mean in the same way that the tabloid newspapers made something out of the nothing that is Brexit?

Well the whinging has already started.

Its really fucking annoying how people voted to Leave and then seem shocked and appalled at all
the very obvious consequences.

The tabloid newspaper that a large swathe of the voting population read and base their political views on.

This, like many others, was an obvious consequence of Brexit (and was explained pre-referendum).

Now that we’ve left, a large segment of Leave voters keep frothing, having been whipped up by the right wing press, at how the EU is ‘evil’ because the necessary consequences of Brexit are transpiring.

And the tabloids, and the ignorance of many of their readers, will continue to impact our politics.

I am just waiting for The Telegraph, Times and the BBC to report this.