Drag Queen at a Primary School - continuation thread here - https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4490413-Drag-Queen-at-a-Primary-School-Thread-2?watched=1

[Lennyllama]

What are your views on a drag queen visiting a primary school for the day? Think thigh high leather boots with short revealing dresses and a dance show. The drag queen spent the day at school. Did a show for KS2 and then went around to individual classes to read a story book. The school had a themed dress up day. The theme was This is Me. Parents were not informed that this would be happening and were not given the option to opt in or out of the experience. The school has a very diverse mix of cultures and religions. This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

YANBU- It’s inappropriate
YABU- It’s appropriate

I have name changed for this.

@Bintymcbintface

I agree that it's not appropriate to shake a dildo tail at children

Thank fuck for small mercies.

@DomesticatedZombie

Kitty Demure on drag for kids.

Great except for blaming women for it in the end rather than the drag queens who push to hire themselves out for children’s book reading.

@Bintymcbintface I said 'routinely.' French and Saunders also did a few skits where they impersonated men, but that is clearly not what I meant.

What is the name for women who routinely dress up as ultra sexualised versions of men? You know, the female equivalent of drag queen.

Hint: they don't exist.

I'm sure everyone posting here knows some straight men who are horrible misogynists.

In exactly the same way, some drag queens are horrible misogynists too. Putting on a dress does not make a man any more likely to be nice.

While obviously some DQs are lovely, there are also some who go out of their way to reinforce stereotypes about women's bodies being disgusting, smelly and unpleasant. Names like Miss Carriage and Anna Bortion are hardly a celebration of 'inclusivity'. While I doubt many drag queens talk about women smelling of 'fish' in front of children, drag acts are still often based on a culture that is highly sexualised and woman-hating. Many DQs who think drag is inappropriate for children have stated this.

I suspect the people who can't see a problem with DQs at schools haven't seen much real-life drag in their local gay pub. It's not all how it's portrayed on tv.

@Sloth66

Just wrong. And tbh I’ve changed my mind about drag in general. Used to think it was harmless, now I think it promotes misogyny, mocking women.

I agree with you completely

It's up to the parents to monitor what their children are doing online, hell if you Google Shia LaBeouf he was in Disney movies and then went on to be in nymphomaniac, a performer doesn't only have one kind of act

@Bintymcbintface You seem deliberately obtuse. DQ are a sexual interpretation of sexist stereotypes. Leaving aside DQ sexualised issue aside, please can you answer this simple yes or no question?

Do you think sexist stereotyping is a good thing for women?

Those comparing DQs to pantomime dames - can you really not see the difference?

Since very few people are that unintelligent I expect most can see it perfectly well
It perhaps just suits them to pretend they can't, so they can go excusing this sort of thing in schools

Once again for that parent at the back, the OP was not informed of the visit, the school did not seek parental consent for the visit of an adult entertainer, which would have allowed parents to opt out if they wished.
For those that felt it was an educationally useful visitor for their children and together, with their primary-aged child, they could look up the performer on on age 14+ social media platforms and Google images LinkedIn as a career platform, after the visit, then I’m sure they would be happy too.

Ok, so, 9 pages into the thread.

What are you going to do @Lennyllama?

No I don't but I'm also able to distinguish the difference between parody and people deliberately being hurtful or demeaning

@Bintymcbintface

Have any of you taken your DC to concerts like little mix or ariana grande etc, imo no different to a DQ in a primary school

Why on earth are you comparing women to drag queens?!

@Bintymcbintface

No I don't but I'm also able to distinguish the difference between parody and people deliberately being hurtful or demeaning

But children can't, that's part of the problem.

Desmond is Amazing. 'Drag Kid'. Here interviewed by Michael Alig, convicted murderer, in front of a sign that says 'Rohypnol'.

Desmond is Amazing mimes snorting ketamine.

I don't see it as appropriate or inappropriate, or reasonable or unreasonable.

It's totally unnecessary at primary school. Most likely the sexualization will go over the children's heads. So, why would the DQ bother?

In secondary school, perhaps after GCSEs, I could understand it if were done in the context of a discussion of the rights and wrongs of DQs, rather than DQ propaganda. That's possible and a useful and interesting conversation, at an age-appropriate time.

But primary? What on earth for?

Because a drag queen in a primary school wearing an outfit similar to what those live acts wear, doing an age appropriate performance that was thanked by the headmaster for such a lovely performance isn't any pissing different. Who cares that it's a man? It's not like their cock was swinging around as they read a story

Jesus @Bintymcbintface what has that got to do with drag queens. Unless there is a very big secret we don't know, those performers are woman.

At what age does a Little Mix or Ariana Grande became appropriate for children?
Separate thread I guess.

@Bintymcbintface

It's up to the parents to monitor what their children are doing online, hell if you Google Shia LaBeouf he was in Disney movies and then went on to be in nymphomaniac, a performer doesn't only have one kind of act

Schools should not be providing links to things so inappropriate for children to encounter in primary school (such as websites of adult performances by people teachers have introduced them to) that parents HAVE to regard information handed out at school as coming from an unsafe source.

Where is the safeguarding in that?

@TheUsualShitshow

I'd go fucking apeshit. Then call the school and offer to come in to read the kids a story dressed only in my underwear and see what they say to my kind offer.

Do you take bookings or? Hehe

Im hoping my kids will be okay as we live in small town. Thw city is where all the broken people with no famlies end up.. Trying to look for new family.

I guess aswell Little Mix have a message of empowerment for women and girls. When I've watched drag race it's usually about gay male empowerment?

@AmberLynn1536

Every time I put on bbc iPlayer they are promoting some sort of drag Queen, they even had a drag Queen presenting a section of the One Show the other day, they are literally everywhere, I find it quite sinister.

This

Did the school give the children links that would take them to the more adult performances?