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AIBU to feel really annoyed after seeing the trailer for Giles Coren’s new series on BBC2

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FlirtyKirti · 30/11/2021 09:39

Here is the trailer: m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQrphDomnLk

Last year Giles mocked the death of Dawn Foster, a disabled journalist from a working class background, which caused additional distress to her grieving family. He has never apologised. It is possible to cancel your Times subscription or to not buy the newspaper, but we all pay our TV license fee and the idea of it funding the salary of such a spiteful silver spooner and for him to go partying around five star hotels really, really irks me. Why has he faced absolutely no consequences? Why is he still in print and on TV? Piers Morgan was forced to resign for saying he didn’t believe Megan Markle saying she was suicidal. Surely laughing at someone’s premature death and hoping that they go to hell is much worse than that?

Is there some sort of BBC forum I can complain to? I’m not even going to mention his terrible sex scene writing.

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lupad · 30/11/2021 17:59

Surely every adult has learned through growing up that if you say something purposefully mean, someone is going to say something meaner back. That's why it's a good idea to watch what you say.

I was bought up to call a spade a spade. DT can say he's not a misogynist, that doesn't mean he's not & Im the devil incarnate who should be sent to hell because I said he was 😆

lupad · 30/11/2021 18:00

And I don't actually have a problem with him saying mean things back, but he waited until she was dead @madisonbridges. That makes him look even worse.

madisonbridges · 30/11/2021 18:04

"DF's comment wasn't really about nepotism, it was about the fact she didn't like GC and thought his opinion was worth nothing. She tried to make her comment funny to be impactful. It wasn't really either."

How did you interpret that all from one tweet?

I didn't interpret. That was her tweet, that just because his dad was famous, that didn't mean he had anything worthwhile listening to.
if I've heard of yer da, I don't need to hear from you.

My point is why did he wait till she was dead years later to respond? That's completely disproportionate

I have no knowledge of the workings of his mind. I can't imagine ever saying something like that so don't understand why he did. Pretty unpleasant to my mind.

Hont1986 · 30/11/2021 18:05

Yes, exactly. It's a bit overly dramatic for what she said.

She has multiple tweets about Coren going back years, it wasn't just the one. As far as I can tell he has never (directly) mentioned her on Twitter before, although hard to tell now because he deleted his account.

madisonbridges · 30/11/2021 18:05

@lupad

And I don't actually have a problem with him saying mean things back, but he waited until she was dead *@madisonbridges*. That makes him look even worse.
I agree. No argument from me.
SudokuWillNotSaveYou · 30/11/2021 18:07

Skip the show and read this instead about Giles Coren vs. Dawn Foster. Great info about why Dawn was so important as a journalist (wrote about the Grenfell fire as someone who’d grown up in one of the towers) and the author refers to Coren as the “Keyser Soze of shitheads.” Explains why Coren will just fucking never be sacked, despite his antics. And I love the phrase “dynasties of the talentless” @fuckoffImcounting

brokenbottleboy.substack.com/p/the-subtweet-and-unsackable-giles

madisonbridges · 30/11/2021 18:08

@lupad

Surely every adult has learned through growing up that if you say something purposefully mean, someone is going to say something meaner back. That's why it's a good idea to watch what you say.

I was bought up to call a spade a spade. DT can say he's not a misogynist, that doesn't mean he's not & Im the devil incarnate who should be sent to hell because I said he was 😆

Of course you can say what you like but so can he. You might view him as a mysoginist and you can say it. Equally he might think you're the devil incarnate and should go to hell and he can say it.

If you're happy to be told that crack on. If you're not happy to be told that, don't call him a mysoginist.

LadyLyndon · 30/11/2021 18:11

Twitter is discussing this new TV show.

twitter.com/kirsty_csk/status/1455597092311814147?s=21

Here is a screen shot if you don’t want to click on the link. Sarah Woolley was a friend of DF.

AIBU to feel really annoyed after seeing the trailer for Giles Coren’s new series on BBC2
GetTheFlockOutOfHere · 30/11/2021 18:13

YANBU. I cannae stand the bloody bloke!

FlirtyKirti · 30/11/2021 18:15

Here’s a direct message Giles sent to someone else who suggested on Twitter that he wasn’t as good as his father:

“Get to fuck you miserable rat faced child molesting cunt”

www.cheoff.com/blog/2018/9/29/giles-coren

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lupad · 30/11/2021 18:16

@madisonbridges but the point he is retaliated when she was dead. What about that are you not understanding?

lupad · 30/11/2021 18:19

@madisonbridges so you didn't interpret that her tweet wasn't about nepotism & that it wasn't funny or impactful. Surely that depends on the audience?

lupad · 30/11/2021 18:20

“Get to fuck you miserable rat faced child molesting cunt”

Well that's lovely & not nasty at all 👍🏼

TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 18:21

@lupad

“Get to fuck you miserable rat faced child molesting cunt”

Well that's lovely & not nasty at all 👍🏼

He sounds mad
Thursdaymiami · 30/11/2021 18:21

He’s a twat. But what the fuck has her being disabled got to do with anything

DismantledKing · 30/11/2021 18:23

And whereas Coren is a cunt, Dawn Foster wasn’t pleasant either. She did a proper hatchet job on Tom Watson because he dared to oppose St Jeremy.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/11/2021 18:23

That's what he does @FlirtyKirti. If you're a man and he doesn't like you he calls paedophile. Such a wordsmith.Hmm

madisonbridges · 30/11/2021 18:25

[quote lupad]@madisonbridges but the point he is retaliated when she was dead. What about that are you not understanding? [/quote]
But I already agreed with you.
Do you want me to agree again?
OK.
I agree with you.

lupad · 30/11/2021 18:27

@madisonbridges I actually hadn't seen that response until I had posted. But i'm glad you agree

FlirtyKirti · 30/11/2021 18:28

@SudokuWillNotSaveYou Thank you for sharing that link. It is a really interesting and well written article. I also love the phrase “Keyser Soze of shitheads”, and someone brilliant called him the “third best Coren” m Twitter.

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TowandaForever · 30/11/2021 18:45

@mustlovegin

This has already been discussed on MN. The conclusion was that Cancel Culture is poisonous. Leave the man alone. Don't watch the programme if you don't want to. Other fee paying viewers will enjoy his show and are entitled to watch it
That's not how I read the discussion!
WomanWithDiamondEarring · 30/11/2021 19:10

He is just a litttle grubbing talentless shit and his sister is only slightly better.

I wonder how his sister feels about those wankerish remarks( one can imagine him literally wanking as he wrote) he made about his daughter, given that she also has a young child.

Stellaris22 · 30/11/2021 19:13

I get the hate for Giles Coren (he is vile), but the hate towards Victoria is uncalled for. She's far from talentless and is a delight.

FlirtyKirti · 30/11/2021 19:18

I’m glad it’s not just me who is annoyed about the Amazing Hotels trailer and the fact Giles Coren has faced absolutely no consequences for his abhorrent behaviour. One of Dawn Foster’s friends is encouraging people to complain to the BBC and her Tweet is getting a lot of likes and retweets.

twitter.com/Sarah_Woolley/status/1465658315225116678?s=20

In case any MNetters want to make a complaint to the BBC here is the link: www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

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TooBigForMyBoots · 30/11/2021 19:26

He called Michael White a paedophile while still hiding behind his father:
My dad said you fiddle with kids. Is that true?
He’s dead so you can’t sue him.*

He then threatened to go round to his house, beat him to a pulp and stab him. He then used his Times column to plead his case:
I, myself, quite recently called someone a paedophile on Twitter without for a moment believing the man to be one. He had just left me with no option but so to accuse him.

Such is his vocabulary and witty repartee. I mean you can clearly see the literary talent.Hmm