To think Laurel Hubbard should not be competing against other women

[Belle82]

I know I am going to get ripped apart for this.

I have no problem with the transgender community, that is your life/body and I am not one to judge anyone else, do what makes you happy.

There is something fundamentally wrong about a person who is biologically a man competing against a woman in sport as significant as weightlifting.
I am not taking anything away from women weightlifters, however when competing in that sport, a person who was born a man will always have an unfair advantage over a woman.

I am all for equal rights but it seems political correctness has now put us in a position that we will only consider the equal rights of those in the transgender community. What happens to the equal rights of all the other women who have worked extremely hard to get to the olympics who should be competing against biological women.

There needs to be clearer cut criteria on entrance requirements to every sport, to give every person the equal rights they deserve.

My heart goes out to all the other women competing who I’m sure must be somewhat disheartened about their chances of success now they are competing against a biological man.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/29/ioc-praises-weightlifter-laurel-hubbard-ahead-of-transgender-athletes-olympic-debut

the IOC is a bunch of nitwits

Ooops - cross posted with Jorriss & TheWeeDonkey who were quicker and more concise than me

Is it my imagination or does LH have a beer gut?

BoreOfWhabylon

Yes! Please head over to the Petitions Board to sign

It was deleted by Change.
It got up to 50 000 signatures

@Jocasta2018

Is it my imagination or does LH have a beer gut?

I don't think body shaming anyone is going to help.

Even the scientist whose report formed the basis of the IOCs decision , Joanna Harper, who is trans, doesn’t stand by their research any more.

It was based on 8 trans athletes, one of whom was Harper, self reporting a reduction in performance following transition.

There’s a bit of education that’s good to have. Nobody currently stands behind the science that forms the basis for these rules, but the juggernaut couldn’t be stopped in time to keep Hubbard off the podium.

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Remember when 50ShadesOfCatholic told us to educate ourselves before posting upthread? I went and educated myself about the sum of their contributions to this thread. Guess what I found? :

Difficult to converse with madness wallowing in spite and self pity
Nope, you're talking out of your arse
Tbh most places are more positive than the UK, it is internationally known as the hub of whining .
Wow, just so much ignorance and knee jerk nonsense in here. People, please educate yourselves before posting
the reams of hate in here and in mainstream UK press. The UK does hate so well

Not a single fact, rational contribution or attempt to engage. Just abuse and contempt. It never differs. No arguments, no facts, no debate - just abuse and attempts to silence.

Well I’m shocked! 😂 I’m sure 50ShadesOfCatholic will be back to share their edumacation and explain why it’s all very fair…..any second now…..

@Ihopeyourcakeisshit

Apart from Caitlin Jenner are there many other transwomen speaking out?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9845267/Pro-golfer-Alison-Perkins-raised-boy-shares-insight-trans-athlete-debate.html

'Currently, from the information I have, I don't believe I should compete against girls,' she says.

'At this moment, I can hit a drive about 300 yards [the furthest normally hit by a Ladies Professional Golf Association member is nearer 290], so I don't think I have power consistent with other women.

'I would love for it to be fair to me to play with the girls, but as things stand, it's a case of playing with the guys and seeing what happens.'

@Jocasta2018

Is it my imagination or does LH have a beer gut?

There was something I noticed about them...

I like the point made by a pp what is to stop an able bodied athlete taking part in the paralympics by identifying as disabled?

I don't think body shaming anyone is going to help.

I think that's the least of laurels worries...

Does anyone know what New Zealand's athletes receive for a medal, if anything?

For some competitors, particularly from the US, it is extremely lucrative. Other nations pay half a million dollars for a gold. I do know that GB athletes get nothing. Can't find out anything about NZ.

I Didn't know that @Sophoclesthefox wow, I consider myself educated.

@MrsOvertonsWindow its surprising how boringly predictable these guys can be.

@Viques
There needs to be an Olympic event for Petulant Non Achieving Male Athletes Who Want a Medal

Absolutely! But you forgot the word “cheating”
Petulant Non Achieving Cheating Male Athletes

@SteppedOnBloodyLego

BoreOfWhabylon

Yes! Please head over to the Petitions Board to sign

It was deleted by Change.
It got up to 50 000 signatures

What? Why? Let me guess, 'transphobia'????

@Jorriss

I don't think body shaming anyone is going to help.

I think that's the least of laurels worries...

Yeah, hes not exactly hiding it is he? For shame.

Difficult to converse with madness wallowing in spite and self pity
Nope, you're talking out of your arse
Tbh most places are more positive than the UK, it is internationally known as the hub of whining .
Wow, just so much ignorance and knee jerk nonsense in here. People, please educate yourselves before posting
the reams of hate in here and in mainstream UK press. The UK does hate so well

That is so TRA in a nutshell.
All sound and fury signifying nothing.
I'm embarrassed for them.

How could you be so mean to the dainty Laurel H.?

@Jorriss

I don't think body shaming anyone is going to help.

I think that's the least of laurels worries...

But throwing insults DOES hurt our fight. And undermine our argument.

You should compete based on your birth sex end of story.

This is outrageous.

Thanks for the explanation Notbad

This situation has gotten really out of control. It’s taking away women’s spaces and their awards and the money/prestige that comes with it. YANBU at all OP.

Well I'm not going to derail the thread with beer gut discussions anyway. It's detracting from the actual problem.

What are we going to do about this?

@Sophoclesthefox

Even the scientist whose report formed the basis of the IOCs decision , Joanna Harper, who is trans, doesn’t stand by their research any more.

It was based on 8 trans athletes, one of whom was Harper, self reporting a reduction in performance following transition.

There’s a bit of education that’s good to have. Nobody currently stands behind the science that forms the basis for these rules, but the juggernaut couldn’t be stopped in time to keep Hubbard off the podium.

Eight? EIGHT? How is that for sample size? 🤦🏻‍♀️