EU blackmailing the UK

[houseinthesnow]

So it comes to pass. The EU have decided unless we agree to their unreasonable demands they will halt all travel, including air and road travel whilst still fishing in our waters apparently!

It is nothing short of piracy.

The true nature of the EU has been exposed for some time, hence our departure - but now no one can be any doubt just to the levels they will sink to.
The EU have no interest in trade relations, nor cooperation, they only seek control and power. The trading relations is and was always, window dressing to create a superstate - and it seems they are now not afraid to inflict as much damage as possible to stop a member leaving.
Even the most passionate remainer will now see how deeply disturbing this behaviour actually is.

One could argue it is an act of war in fact.

It should be treated as such.

I will happily eat beans to the end of my days than be blackmailed by the EU. We all knew it would get nasty at the end, but who they knew they were capable of this. I suppose we can't be that surprised given the past. The gloves are off now for sure - and that goes both ways we should remind them.

Hard hats on.

Colour me gobsmacked, @RedToothBrush. Whodathunkit, eh?

Can I say there is nothing wrong with Dunkirk, and I am proud of the people that fought and died for your freedom.

Are you a military historian or a flag seller ?

OP

When you provide a proper rebuttal to the points in my list. I'll write you another.

Until then all I hear is someone who hopes their bluster will substitute for reasoned arguement.

Care to comment on the GFA?

GFA? I mean it was a key issue in the referendum campaign after all.

Our welfare system has been abused for years, with people from Eastern Europe and other countries sending home child benefit and other benefits to their home countries (my cleaner did this for three years so I know just how it works, she was very honest about why they came)

If you knowingly paid a cleaner who you knew was fraudulently claiming benefits you were participating in and benefiting from that fraud.

YOU were abusing the welfare system.

I am proud of the people that fought and died for your freedom.

"So long as you don't exercise your freedom to think, let alone speak, non-Brexity sentiments. In that case, you should be thrown in the gulags."

'Again this puzzling exhortation? How will it help?'

Well it won't 'help' brexit but it may help folk to cope with it. All the weeping and wailing on here is ridiculous.

@FastMovingLuxuryGoods

Colour me gobsmacked, *@RedToothBrush*. Whodathunkit, eh?

Its like a timewarp back to 2016 where the GFA had an invisibility cloak.

Then they claimed that noone talked about it.

And eventually in 2018 they admitted they didn't give a fuck and it wasn't their problem.

Now in 2020 its gone back to being invisible and even bloody Arlene is probably reconsidering her political future.

merry I have already said she declared her income when she worked for us.

Do you mean you'd like us to put together a list (or even one item, apparently) that you actually understand, OP?

I have a sneaking suspicion that could take more time than any of us have to give.

I am proud of the people that fought and died for your freedom.

Jingoism and positivity. Magic. That'll sort out the post-crash out mess nicely.

@Susanwouldntlikeit

OP you are getting a lot of abuse on here but no substance or willingness to debate. You will simply have a thread full of potty-mouthed accusations of trolling. Interestingly tho half of people who voted agree with you but will not post here because of the bullying of those who are unable to have a conversation and only up to an incoherent rant.

There is nothing to debate because there are no facts to debate in OP - nor in the leavers' so-called arguments. You want us to take you seriously? Make serious points. But you can't. So tough.

All the weeping and wailing on here is ridiculous.

You mean like the weeping and wailing of the Brexit voters on here like the OP, about BullyingPunishmentOppressionCoweringNastyRemainersHurtyFeelz?

'Please don't link fluffy, woolly passages about the climate and travelling for work, the EU have done SFA for the climate, and even less for jobs and investment.'

Fluffy woolly passages seems to be the standard I'm afraid. Ah the climate who cares about that!

fast Yup because you STILL haven't got one. So your argument is based on pure fiction and emotion as far as I can see.

You failed the ref for this reason pal.

If you had a solid base to convince anyone to stay within the EU, I am sure you would have used it by now!

Still tumbleweed as far as I can see.....The minute you ask a remainer give me twenty reasons to remain you get the same response.

@MaxNormal

I am proud of the people that fought and died for your freedom.

Jingoism and positivity. Magic. That'll sort out the post-crash out mess nicely.

Well its been used before in the past as a strategy. I wouldn't like to comment on the success of the outcome.

Ah the climate who cares about that!

Billions of people.

I'm hoping red does a few more of her simply hilarious upper and lower case sentences, all the LOLZ!!

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'Please don't link fluffy, woolly passages about the climate and travelling for work, the EU have done SFA for the climate, and even less for jobs and investment.'

Fluffy woolly passages seems to be the standard I'm afraid. Ah the climate who cares about that!

Cos trade deals with Australia are the way forward for the economy huh?

'Ah the climate who cares about that!'

'Billions of people.'

Yes I was being sarcastic.

Yup because you STILL haven't got one. So your argument is based on pure fiction and emotion as far as I can see.

Cool, so you'll be providing a factual rebuttal to all 16 points in the list I linked to and on the GFA rather than using emotive language to give your opinion on the style of writing, typos and making a range of unsubstantiated statements?

Environment sorry. Not economy.

Still. I'm not convinced of how it improves the economy either.

@Eleganz

Yup because you STILL haven't got one. So your argument is based on pure fiction and emotion as far as I can see.

Cool, so you'll be providing a factual rebuttal to all 16 points in the list I linked to and on the GFA rather than using emotive language to give your opinion on the style of writing, typos and making a range of unsubstantiated statements?

Or my post from June 16th 2016 about the arguments which is upthread. Since waiting.

I despise their gravy trains of fat cats and missing billions, I despise their petty laws and overarching, overbearing control - meddling in every nation. I can't stand the sluggish and drawn out back patting, the nepotism, the corruption, the idea that Brussels is where the decisions are made, when we ALL know it is Berlin calling the shots.

What exactly do you think you're replacing this with?
Tory MPs who give massive contracts to their mates' companies to make PPE, despite those companies having never made PPE?
The obscene expenses claimed across all parties?
More campaigns based on misrepresentations, crucial omissions and complete fabrications?
A government so far removed from the lives of their voters and yet so, so aware of how to play them?

Or is it just that you don't mind being governed by overpaid, incompetent, nepotistic, corrupt fat cats, so long as they're OUR overpaid, incompetent, nepotistic, corrupt fat cats?

So many seemingly have not been taught history or economics.

Nor even the basic art of list making

@GetOffYourHighHorse

I'm hoping red does a few more of her simply hilarious upper and lower case sentences, all the LOLZ!!

Are you running out of comebacks or something?

Ooo look change the subject.