BBC during the night was saying that they both lied, and in support produced Pence saying that Trump stopped flights from China, as against Harris saying Trump thought the virus was a Democrat hoax.
OK, so what Trump said was that the virus would vanish in April and worrying about it was a Democrat hoax -- I doubt Trump would see any difference between that and "it's a Democrat hoax", myself, but they only gave one example from each, and then said that nobody won or lost the debate. Did Pence really only tell the one porky in all that mishmash of stuff he was stating?