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The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 02/09/2020 14:25

Trump used manipulation and race-baiting four years ago. He’s at it again. We are weary and worried but we shall persist.

Cartoon by Chris Riddell.

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lionheart · 21/09/2020 12:45

Oh. Sad

The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)
AcrossthePond55 · 21/09/2020 13:42

Just got a news 'ping' on my phone. Scrotus says his SC nom will be announces Thurs or Fri.

Lovely news to wake up to on a Monday morning. Not.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/09/2020 13:43

@lionheart

Oh. Sad
That pic is just so so lovely. Gave me a smile and a tear.
BruceAndNosh · 21/09/2020 13:49

Chris Wallace grills Tom Cotton on hypocrisy in blocking Obama's SCOTUS nomination 9 months before an election , yet insisting that Trump's nom should go though 6 weeks ahead of the poll
thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/517276-chris-wallace-presses-cotton-on-any-hypocrisy-on-2016-comments-to

If Wallace carries on with this journalistic rigour, he won't last much longer at Fox!

lionheart · 21/09/2020 15:36

This will be an interesting read but maybe in a year or two:

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/andrew-weissmann-mueller-book-where-law-ends/616395/

“There’s no question I was frustrated at the time,” Weissmann told me in a recent interview. “There was more that could be done that we didn’t do.” He pointed out that the special counsel’s report never arrived at the clear legal conclusions expected from an internal Justice Department document. At the same time, it lacked the explanatory power of last month’s bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report on the 2016 election. “Even with 1,000 pages, it was better,” Weissmann said of the Senate report. “It made judgments and calls, instead of saying, ‘You could say this and you could say that.'"

lionheart · 21/09/2020 15:42

Huh?

www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/doj-designates-new-york-city-as-an-anarchist-jurisdiction/2627588/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

'The Justice Department designated NYC, Portland and Seattle as "anarchist jurisdictions" under guidelines issued by President Trump earlier this month.'

lionheart · 21/09/2020 15:44

Daniel Dale (CNN)
@ddale8

'Trump falsely claims Ginsburg's wish to not have her seat filled until next president is installed is a hoax perpetrated by Dem politicians. "I don't know that she said that, or was that written out by Adam Schiff and Schumer and Pelosi. I would be more inclined to the second."'

BruceAndNosh · 21/09/2020 16:02

@lionheart

Daniel Dale (CNN) *@ddale8*

'Trump falsely claims Ginsburg's wish to not have her seat filled until next president is installed is a hoax perpetrated by Dem politicians. "I don't know that she said that, or was that written out by Adam Schiff and Schumer and Pelosi. I would be more inclined to the second."'

God, he really is a nasty little man.
AcrossthePond55 · 21/09/2020 16:39

God, he really is a nasty little man

Definitely the first two, not sure he qualifies for the third. I'd say he qualifies as a troglodyte.

One of the Oxford definitions: "A person who is regarded as being deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned"

Heffalooomia · 21/09/2020 17:44

he is not human, he is slug

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/09/2020 17:56

Don't be so rude about slugs! They are useful little creatures and fill an ecological niche, which is more than can be said for Trump.

Heffalooomia · 21/09/2020 17:59

sorry
sorry slugs
I cant think of any thing to compare it with

Wishingstarr · 21/09/2020 18:07

Just joining this thread from the USA. I have been on the Left all my life, and considered the Democrats centrists but I think there is a good chance Trump will win this election.

The authoritarianism on the Left is getting worse than the right, as the Left are willing to tell lies about material reality and that women can have penises.

The constant protesting in Portland is not a good look. Everyone is wondering what they are expecting to achieve? What are the actual changes that they are putting in place? Its the swing states that matter, and they are watching this stuff and wondering if that is what a Democrat President would bring us, especially one who is Senile.

PerkingFaintly · 21/09/2020 18:25

Goodness, what original messaging, WishingStarr. I don't think we've ever been given any of those lines on MN before.Wink

HoldMyLobster · 21/09/2020 19:17

@PerkingFaintly

Goodness, what original messaging, WishingStarr. I don't think we've ever been given any of those lines on MN before.Wink
You beat me to it Grin
Lweji · 21/09/2020 19:24

Wonderful insight, Wishingstarr.
Grin

Do tell us more. Isn't Trump wonderful, clever and an amazing defender of democracy?
Isn't the world so much better with him as US President.
Who knows what the US would look like without his strong response to covid? Him alone can save the US from women with penis.

PerkingFaintly · 21/09/2020 19:32

Mind you, going on their enthusiasm for the Orange One, it looks like a lot of US voters* rather like authoritarianism. And like senile presidents.

Perhaps Biden should try to up his scores in those areas?

pace Across & HoldMyLobster*

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/09/2020 19:50

What about Trump men without penises?

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/09/2020 20:16

I don't think WishingStarr actually said she preferred Trump, just that she thought he would win.

I hope she is wrong, because I feel the USA would be a lot better off with a senile but well-intentioned President than with a senile narcissist President who is also a sexist and a racist. Oh, and a fraudster and a rapist, if even one of the many women who has accused him of assault on her is accurate.

Wishingstarr · 21/09/2020 20:17

I am just describing what a lot of people here are seeing and thinking. I am not a Republican or a Trump supporter. You can wink at each other but then don't be surprised if he wins in some of the swing states.

The fact that both parties offered up terrible candidates yet again may explain why 48% of Americans did not vote in 2016 and why we will likely have a repeat this time. Dems and the GOP are both very evenly split at about 24-25% of those that vote, so small swings can make a huge difference. Its a lot of people in the middle who see themselves as independents that can swing the election.

Bernie was very popular, my husband is still wearing his t-shirt, unfortunately the younger generations obsessed with him on social media didn't show up at the polls. And it will come down, once again, to getting out the vote in key areas. My husband and daughter took a road trip recently and away from the coast they saw Trump signs everywhere they went.

My white father in law and his Black wife both voted for Obama twice and both voted for Trump and they both still love him.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/09/2020 20:20

Bernie is older than Biden.

HoldMyLobster · 21/09/2020 20:24

I am just describing what a lot of people here are seeing and thinking.

Where is 'here'?

I'm in Maine, and although there are a lot of Trump/Pence garden signs about, I would say there are fewer than in 2016. Voters here are notoriously independent.

Wishingstarr · 21/09/2020 20:25

I know, wheeling out old white men isn't working in firing up the electorate, he didn't connect with many Black voters for a start. He was offering solutions to health care however which is a huge issue for most people.

I don't support any of them, I am just reporting my observations.

PerkingFaintly · 21/09/2020 20:29

I think Trump might win, too. I mean he did in 2016 (even without getting the popular vote), so he might do again.

Doesn't mean I go on social media boosting Trumpie messaging.

both voted for Trump and they both still love him.

Well exactly. Like I said, a lot of US voters love a senile authoritarian.

Wishingstarr · 21/09/2020 20:30

The population of Maine is 1.345 million and is the whitest most rural state in the nation which generally doesn't vote Republican unless they are very moderate. It's hardly up there in the swing state category.

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