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The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 02/09/2020 14:25

Trump used manipulation and race-baiting four years ago. He’s at it again. We are weary and worried but we shall persist.

Cartoon by Chris Riddell.

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The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)
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TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok · 11/09/2020 16:10

How have I not realised, for 4 years, this series of threads is here?

Hello, hope you don't mind.me catching up with you!

BruceAndNosh · 11/09/2020 16:19

@TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok

How have I not realised, for 4 years, this series of threads is here?

Hello, hope you don't mind.me catching up with you!

With your username, you've been here in spirit!
PerkingFaintly · 11/09/2020 16:20

Grab yourself a Brew and some Cake, TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok.

Though the high levels of WTF?! frequently incurred by Trump's behaviour does mean that spitting the tea or inhaling crumbs are common hazards around here...

TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok · 11/09/2020 16:35

@PerkingFaintly

Grab yourself a Brew and some Cake, TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok.

Though the high levels of WTF?! frequently incurred by Trump's behaviour does mean that spitting the tea or inhaling crumbs are common hazards around here...

I live for the WTF moments! I feel like this thread is a perfect fit, thank you for the welcomes.
Roussette · 11/09/2020 16:56

TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok
With a name like that, you're very welcome! Could you be our lucky mascot for November's election? Grin

Lweji · 11/09/2020 17:26

Today is 11 September. Watching photos of GWB when he was dealing with the attacks, I wonder if DJT would downplay it not to cause panic. Sad Or even end up inviting OBL to the WH. Hmm

Cacacoisfarraige · 11/09/2020 17:30

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TheSparklyPussycat · 11/09/2020 17:50

If only it had been fake news Sad

BruceAndNosh · 11/09/2020 18:04

@Cacacoisfarraige

I would love live fact checking in the debates, and if you tell porkies in one speech allocation your next speech allocation Is cut by the time taken to correct said porkies first.
Trump won't be speaking at all bt the third debate...
Roussette · 11/09/2020 18:12

Today is 11 September. Watching photos of GWB when he was dealing with the attacks

And I bet we all remember where we were when we heard about 9/11. I was due in NY 5 weeks later on a short break with girlfriends, we ummed and ahhed whether to still go and so so glad we did. We were welcomed in NY with open warm arms, it was very moving to be there so close in time to that awful time.

lionheart · 11/09/2020 18:18

Hello TrumpsAKnobHeadWazzok.

I cannot disagree.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2020 19:14

As we were just saying...

Trump will be in big trouble when he can’t run off stage at the debates
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/11/trump-will-be-big-trouble-when-he-cant-run-off-stage-debates/

At his Thursday campaign event masquerading as a White House news conference, President Trump could not answer a basic question from ABC News’s Jonathan Karl: Why did he lie to the American public about the danger of covid-19? He claimed he didn’t, but we know he did. He told The Post’s Bob Woodward that he had downplayed the virus. We also know Trump was told the coronavirus pandemic was much deadlier than the flu and that he told the public the opposite. When pressed, he resorted to his “I did not want to panic people” argument — a confession of his inability to lead in a crisis.
The Post’s Philip Rucker followed up by asking why he could not be both honest and calm, as German Chancellor Angela Merkel had been. That sent Trump into a long rant in which he falsely insisted the United States was faring better than the European Union. As he fumbled and mumbled, he hit upon a new excuse: If what he said was so horrible, Woodward should have gone to the “authorities." Not only is the president the highest “authority” in the executive branch but, as Rucker pointed out, “Bob Woodward is not the president.” It was a truly bizarre moment, which only confirms Trump has no idea, after nearly four years, how to do the job.




Trump also let on that he watched a full night’s worth of Fox News, mentioning the hosts by name. It was a useful explanation for where he gets much of his information: sycophantic TV hosts who lie to their audience. And then he disappeared, leaving the podium as he often does when things are especially dreadful. This is not something Trump will be able to do when things get dicey on the debate stage in a few weeks. If not moderator Chris Wallace, then Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is going to press him: When you told Woodward that covid-19 is worse than the flu and then told the public the opposite, isn’t that lying? If you knew it was so dangerous and transmitted by air, why did you keep holding rallies, mock people for wearing masks and nag governors to reopen businesses? Trump cannot rant and rave during a debate as he does on the stump or during news conferences without sounding ridiculous.



We got a flavor of the side-by-side comparison Americans will see with Biden’s interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper on Thursday, which showed the former vice president to be coherent, factual and responsive to questions. “He seems to have no conception of what constitutes national security, no conception of anything other than what can he do to promote himself,” Biden said, pointing to Trump’s insults to our military, his query as to why we can’t use nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes and his own advisers’ concern about his relationship with Vladimir Putin. Biden laid into Trump on his contemptuous talk about men and women in uniform. “He doesn’t understand duty, honor, service, country," Biden said. "He doesn’t get it. Or if he gets it, he doesn’t care about it.” He went on: "Unrelated to my running, he should not be the commander in chief of the United States military. It’s just — no commander in chief’s ever, ever, ever acted like this man.”
When Biden says such things — reasonable arguments backed up by facts — will Trump run from the stage? Will he blame a reporter? Trump would have no real answer if Biden were to say, as he did on CNN, “The virus is not his fault, but the deaths are his fault because he could’ve done something about it.” There are nearly 200,000 families in mourning who will attest to that.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2020 19:26

"I think there's probably, possibly drugs involved. That's what I hear." -- during interview with Judge Jeanine, Trump casually accuses Joe Biden of using performance enhancing drugs
twitter.com/atrupar/status/1304472674375262208?s=21

This doctor claims to be a behavioural/body language expert and has said for some time that Trump is using drugs.
1/ THREAD: Trump is PROJECTING. Trump is a long-term and severe drug abuser. MSM —please seize on this opportunity and ask Trump why his pupils are so often widely dilated.
twitter.com/drgjackbrown/status/1304482172863045632?s=21

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Lweji · 11/09/2020 19:46

And despite his protestations of less wars, there are more bombs and more military spending.

www.businessinsider.com/trumps-waging-a-phony-war-against-the-military-industrial-complex-2020-9

Roussette · 11/09/2020 20:01

northWest that's a very interesting post. Shocking too

PerkingFaintly · 11/09/2020 20:12

Now that is interesting.

We know from experience he just can't help himself telling us where the bodies are buried, though of course claiming the other guy buried them.

So now he's put a big "dig here" sign over drug use...

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2020 21:34

Trump will be in big trouble when he can’t run off stage at the debates

Don't bet on that, North. I can certainly see him walking (in teeny-tiny baby steps) off the stage because 'this debate is rigged/unfairr' or similar crap. His base will applaud him, we will laugh at him, and the undecideds will....who the fuck knows.

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2020 21:37

'unfair' has only one 'r'. I need to adjust the sensitivity on my keyboard.

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2020 21:38

BTW, I keep reading the thread title as 'The Disgruntled States of Trump. Either works.

lionheart · 11/09/2020 22:04

'Fortunate Son' playing as the intro to Trump's latest little rally and once again you have to wonder if someone with a sense of humour is trying to sabotage the campaign.

TheSparklyPussycat · 11/09/2020 22:34

From your clip of Trump speaking of drugs, I can't help wondering about him also saying "You'd be so bored if i acted presidential ". Anyone know the context in which he said it, or can link to a clip?

lionheart · 11/09/2020 22:41

www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/catholics-and-evangelicals-in-battleground-states-swing-toward-biden?utm_source=smartnews&utm_medium=feed

'Catholics and evangelicals in battleground states are swinging toward Joe Biden, a survey found, as the former vice president's campaign makes a moral case against President Trump.

The survey, commissioned by the left-leaning group Vote Common Good and conducted in Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, found that a majority of people view Biden as more personally reflective of Christian values than Trump. The group, which has run outreach for Biden, hopes that Trump's perceived "lack of kindness" will convince more voters to translate their personal distaste into a vote for Biden, VCG Executive Director Doug Pagitt said.

"Four years ago, many religious voters decided to look the other way and give Trump a chance, but after witnessing his cruelty and corruption, some of them are searching for an off-ramp," he said.'

Lweji · 11/09/2020 23:06

@TheSparklyPussycat

From your clip of Trump speaking of drugs, I can't help wondering about him also saying "You'd be so bored if i acted presidential ". Anyone know the context in which he said it, or can link to a clip?
I think it was during the campaign in 2016.
TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2020 23:17

Give peas a chance.
(Graffiti sadly no longer on M25 bridge)

End the Nobel Peace Prize.
The Trump nomination shows that peace had its chance, and blew it.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/end-nobel-peace-prize/616300/

The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)
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Lweji · 11/09/2020 23:24

As predicted, what prize did you say?

The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)