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To ask about Jeremy Corbyn and anti semitism

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TheoriginalLEM · 16/11/2019 18:10

So having decided to vote labour I had a conversation with a Jewish work colleague who said she couldn't vote for him, hated him even. It took me a few seconds and then i realised why. I said that I had stuck my fingers in my ears and my head in the sand somewhat about this, hoping it was just the media etc.

We didn't get into it as I could see she was uncomfortable.

So can someone tell me if and why he is an anti-semite? It doesn't sit well with me to vote for someone like that but I desperately want the Tories gone and my politics is definitely to the left.

I'm honestly not being goady and I know I could google but i wouldn't know where to start to get an unbiased view

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Idonthaveaname35 · 18/11/2019 23:07

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Halleli · 18/11/2019 23:08

And no, the reason I'm familiar with dehumanising antisemitic stereotypes is not because I have "high cultural background knowledge" but because they led directly to my grandmother being put on a train to England by her parents, who she never saw again. I think you know why.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2019 23:10

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Idonthaveaname35 · 18/11/2019 23:11

@noblegiraffe this is an open forum and it’s a fair question. If you can’t answer it that’s your problem

Halleli · 18/11/2019 23:13

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2019 23:14

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

From:
IHRA definition of antisemitism.

www.holocaustremembrance.com/sites/default/files/press_release_document_antisemitism.pdf

Halleli · 18/11/2019 23:14

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AnnieTotach · 18/11/2019 23:14

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2019 23:15

it’s a fair question

That could have been made without any reference to the Nazis, but you chose the antisemitic way of going about it.

Why is that?

meyouandlulutoo · 18/11/2019 23:15

I used to be a Labour voter. Now I am getting confused. LGBTTQQIAAP/ conservative Muslim/ Jewish Community/ Brexit/Remainers. For goodness sake Jeremy Corbyn say what you support and believe in because unless you tell us that it is the working people without discrimination how can anyone trust you. Jeremy Corbyn is no different to anyone else who wants power, he is promising everything just like every other communist leader in history has.

GlitchStitch · 18/11/2019 23:15

Where do these posters keep coming from? I'm hoping it's an organised influx rather than regular mumsnetters spouting such offensive shite.

Rhododendronite · 18/11/2019 23:18

@Idonthaveaname35

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-muslim-detention-camps-uighur-rights-latest-a9202811.html

What's your point?

Idonthaveaname35 · 18/11/2019 23:18

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PeterOhanrahahanrahan · 18/11/2019 23:18

Idonthaveaname35

Again, what the fuck does that have to do with anti-Jewish racism in the Labour Party?

AnnieTotach · 18/11/2019 23:18

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Rhododendronite · 18/11/2019 23:19

@Idonthaveaname35

Plus, they're armed and they're trying to storm the Israeli border.

The IDF soldiers warn them not to approach within a certain distance of the border, and they do anyway.

Are the IDF supposed to sit back and let them cross into Israel so they can slaughter Israeli civilians?

Idonthaveaname35 · 18/11/2019 23:21

How many Israelis have been slaughtered? As compared to the slaughter of the Palestinians? Is it proportionate

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Rhododendronite · 18/11/2019 23:22

How many Israelis have been slaughtered? As compared to the slaughter of the Palestinians? Is it proportionate

The Palestinians target civilians.

Israel targets the terrorists who target civilians.

So yes, it is proportionate.

GlitchStitch · 18/11/2019 23:22

Can you answer Annie's question please-

"Please can anyone explain to me why it's relevant to ask this question on a thread about antisemitism in Britain?"

AnnieTotach · 18/11/2019 23:22

Oh, and having a Jewish fiance does not permit you to spout antisemitic drivel and then claim not to be antisemitic.
Next you'll be claiming you can't be racist because some of your best friends are black.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2019 23:22

Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

Again from the IHRA definition of antisemitism. Stop asking British Jews to justify Israeli actions.

Any Jews still reading, please don’t feel that you have to answer the troll.

Idonthaveaname35 · 18/11/2019 23:23

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