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'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.

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lionheart · 19/01/2019 01:08

From Bette Davis, who was too canny to name names. Smile

Here is the old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3458456-Shutdowns-military-pullouts-and-resignations-it-s-Christmas-and-Trump-thread-89?watched=1&msgid=84240445#84240445

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lionheart · 23/01/2019 07:59

Flowers Merdede.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 10:40

Did he forget slavery?

Anniegetyourgun · 23/01/2019 10:54

Only if you define slaves as people...

trumptrump · 23/01/2019 12:23

It's weird how much attention the media is giving this event.

It's also weird that those school kids were at an anti-abortion rally for a field trip!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 12:24

Ah, he apologised -

Rep. Peter Welch
‏*@PeterWelch*

Sincere apologies.

Nothing worse in the history of our country than the brutal inhumanity of the horrible, relentless, and savage infliction of involuntary servitude-slavery- on millions of people whose freedom was denied.

Nothing.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 12:28

Zoe Tillman
‏*@ZoeTillman*
NEW: The federal judiciary now says it has enough money to fund operations through Jan. 31 — the last estimate was through Jan. 25. Spox for the Administrative Office said they're looking for a way to make the money last through Feb. 1, but after that, no more extensions

twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1087834589849178119

Mimi Rocah
‏*@Mimirocah1*
The courts. The federal courts. How can we function properly as a democratic society without the courts?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 12:33

Rudy Guiliani:

Trump’s Lawyer Said There Were “No Plans” For Trump Tower Moscow. Here They Are.
Rudy Giuliani claims the Moscow tower was barely more than a notion. “There were no drafts. Nothing in the file.” Documents obtained by BuzzFeed News tell a different story.

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/here-are-the-trump-moscow-plans

And

Kyle Griffin
‏*@kylegriffin1*
Giuliani tells NYer he's "been through all the tapes" and that's how he knew BuzzFeed misreported. Pressed on what he means by tapes, Giuliani: "I shouldn’t have said tapes." Pressed again, says, "I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this."

www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/even-if-he-did-do-it-it-wouldnt-be-a-crime-rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-robert-mueller-moscow-buzzfeed

And

Benjamin Franklin
‏*@benFranklin2018*
Giuliani has actually been doing a highly effective strategy of desensitizing everyone to what's going on and taking the air out of the next revelation of wrongdoing by rolling it out as a "gaffe". But hey, what a dumdum!

This is the guffaw left.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 12:43

Newsweek
‏*@Newsweek*
China grants Ivanka Trump five trademarks as White House continues trade negotiations with Beijing trib.al/aCLMfNb

Joyce Alene
‏*@JoyceWhiteVance*
WH Advisor gets 5 trademarks from a country we are in the middle of a trade war with. China also uses cyber espionage against us. Apparently, ethics rules don't apply to the 1st daughter. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-ivanka-trump-trademarks-trade-talks_us_5c474058e4b0a8dbe1757cb3?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

And

Ivanka Trump to Help Choose New World Bank President
www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/ivanka-trump-world-bank-president.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 12:55

Deripaska and Allies Could Benefit From Sanctions Deal, Document Shows

www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/us/politics/oleg-deripaska-russian-sanctions.html

When the Trump administration announced last month that it was lifting sanctions against a trio of companies controlled by an influential Russian oligarch, it cast the move as tough on Russia and on the oligarch, arguing that he had to make painful concessions to get the sanctions lifted.

But a binding confidential document signed by both sides suggests that the agreement the administration negotiated with the companies controlled by the oligarch, Oleg V. Deripaska, may have been less punitive than advertised.

The deal contains provisions that free him from hundreds of millions of dollars in debt while leaving him and his allies with majority ownership of his most important company, the document shows.

And

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
9 days after Trump won, Mark Burnett contacted Tom Barrack, Trump's close adviser, to see if he'd meet a banker who has long held ties to Russia, ABC reports. That January, he secured a meeting with Flynn.

Congressional investigators are now interested.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-banker-ties-putins-circle-sought-access-trump/story?id=60521702

And

Julia Ioffe
‏*@juliaioffe*
Emin Agalarov, Donald Trump Jr's interlocutor and one of the organizers of the Trump Tower meeting, has canceled his US music tour, citing fears that he'd be detained in connection with the Mueller probe.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-robert-mueller-trump-tower-meeting-emin-agalarov-tour-cancel-arrests-fears-latest-a8739696.html

www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/emin-agalarov-russian-singer-linked-trump-family-cancels-upcoming-tour-n960981

lionheart · 23/01/2019 12:59

www.newsweek.com/shutdown-lara-trump-federal-workers-furloughed-border-wall-1300775

'The 800,000 furloughed federal employees and 400,000 working without pay due to the government shutdown over $5 billion dollars in funding for a wall on the U.S. southern border are going through “a little bit of pain,” but “this is so much bigger than any one person” said Lara Trump, campaign adviser and daughter-in-law to President Donald Trump and wife to Eric Trump, to right-leaning web show Bold TV on Monday.'

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 13:06

Kyle Cheney
‏*@kyledcheney*
The lawyers for the unnamed country fighting Mueller's subpoena argued to the Supreme Court that if the subpoena is upheld it could upend international immunity principles and "wreak havoc" on American foreign policy.

'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.
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lionheart · 23/01/2019 13:11

Pence:

Pavlovitz

'His Olympic level hypocrisy, that claims any moral high ground while working for a bottom feeder like this President, offends me.'

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 13:13

Olga Lautman
‏****@olgaNYC1211
Ukraine amps up their air defense amid a buildup of Russian troops and military equipment along Ukraine’s borders that significantly increased since November. Lots of activity going on the past week

Ukraine beefs up air defense amid massing of Russian troops near Ukrainian borders

Read more on UNIAN: www.unian.info/war/10416480-ukraine-beefs-up-air-defense-amid-massing-of-russian-troops-near-ukrainian-borders.html

www.unian.info/war/10416480-ukraine-beefs-up-air-defense-amid-massing-of-russian-troops-near-ukrainian-borders.html

And

Olga Lautman
‏****@olgaNYC1211
Russian warships were deployed to shadow 2 US Navy ships in the Baltic Sea. Russian ships have also been shadowing a US Navy ship heading to the Black Sea

www.unian.info/world/10415550-russian-warships-scrambled-to-intercept-two-u-s-navy-destroyers-in-baltic-sea-media.html

And from 5 days ago:

Olga Lautman
‏****@olgaNYC1211
Following Following @olgaNYC1211
More Olga Lautman Retweeted InfoResist
Russia has deployed nuclear capable ballistic missile launchers near Ukraine’s borders
Not sure what the world is waiting for

twitter.com/olgaNYC1211/status/1086310663864094720

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 13:21

Anastasia Vashukevich, the Belarusian escort who claimed to have recordings related to Russia's election interference in the U.S., was deported from Thailand after pleading guilty to solicitation and conspiracy and was unpleasantly manhandled at the airport

twitter.com/navalny/status/1086174510292844545

She's now been released

Model who said she had dirt on Russian oligarch walks free
apnews.com/4a5c47fce13944649502216ec4a27c48

And

Leaked Audio Suggests Oleg Deripaska Planned Anastasia Vashukevich’s Arrest
www.thedailybeast.com/leaked-audio-suggests-oleg-deripaska-planned-anastasia-vashukevichs-arrest

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 13:41

It feels like a solid trolling move

WIRED UK
‏*@WiredUK*
Facebook and Twitter are being sued by Russia over failures to comply with data protection regulation in the country

www.wired.co.uk/article/russia-suing-facebook-twitter

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Lweji · 23/01/2019 14:09

Speaking of fake news, Microsoft warns against our old friend the Daily Mail.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/dont-trust-daily-mail-website-microsoft-browser-warns-users

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 14:15

The Daily Mail covers things that other newspapers don't - as much as I don't agree with a lot of what they write and am dismayed by the veracity of a lot of their material, at least they aren't afraid to cover issues that the Guardian et al won't.

PerkingFaintly · 23/01/2019 14:18

Ouch!

From Lweji's link:

Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users
www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/dont-trust-daily-mail-website-microsoft-browser-warns-users

Microsoft’s internet browser is warning users not to trust the Daily Mail’s journalism as part of a feature designed to fight fake news.

Visitors to Mail Online who use Microsoft Edge can now see a statement asserting that “this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability” and “has been forced to pay damages in numerous high-profile cases”.

The message, which is produced by a third-party startup called NewsGuard, tells readers to proceed carefully given that “the site regularly publishes content that has damaged reputations, caused widespread alarm, or constituted harassment or invasion of privacy”.

It gives Mail Online, one of the world’s biggest news websites, one out of five on credibility – the same level as the Kremlin-backed RT news service.

NewsGuard is run by news industry veterans and says it is trying to establish industry-standard benchmarks for which news websites should be trusted. It employs analysts to manually check whether sites meet a series of journalistic standards, making all its judgments public and inviting outlets to respond to criticism and improve their standards to gain a higher rating.

lionheart · 23/01/2019 14:18

Does this mean their are 'tapes'?

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/giulianis-fate-is-uncertain-after-interviews#~o

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AcrossthePond55 · 23/01/2019 14:27

Au Revoir, Merde. Enjoy your respite.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2019 14:32

Julian Assange launches legal challenge against Trump administration
WikiLeaks founder’s lawyers file urgent application in attempt to prevent extradition to US

www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/julian-assange-launches-legal-challenge-against-trump-administration-extradition

AcrossthePond55 · 23/01/2019 14:42

I'm sure there are, Lion. I'm also sure that if there was anything incriminating, it's long been destroyed by now. There are probably lots of 'fake news' tapes with scripted conversations though, just waiting to be turned over if ever there's a subpoena. No, I'm afraid we can't hope that some 'smoking gun' tape will show up. Scrotus is stupid, but he's not dumb.

Historical musing:
It wasn't until a WH Aide was under oath to Congress and mentioned tapes during testimony that anyone knew Nixon had been 'bugging' the WH. Taping is not unheard of, FDR did it too. I expect more POTUSs (POTi?) did it than we know. But I expect they were more 'judicious' in when they turned the recorder on than Nixon was.

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