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Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89

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TheClaws · 23/12/2018 07:09

It’s chaos in Trump’s world, more so than usual, with #TrumpResign trending in Twitter after a number of key debacles: the pull-out of US troops from Syria, the resignation of General Jim Mattis, and the shutdown of the government over Christmas due to bipartisan disagreement over wall funding. (Those are just 3 issues.) The next few weeks will be rocky.

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3442038-But-When-the-president-does-it-that-means-it-is-not-illegal-Trump-thread-LXXXVIII

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/12/2018 14:30

NEW: Incoming acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney tells @jonkarl that President Trump "now realizes" that he "does not have the ability" to fire Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell abcn.ws/2Cx7NQx #ThisWeek
twitter.com/thisweekabc/status/1076840265225142273?s=21

cozietoesie · 23/12/2018 14:44

Indeed he doesn't. Smile

AcrossthePond55 · 23/12/2018 15:51

President Trump "now realizes" that he "does not have the ability" to fire Federal Reserve chairman

Just goes to show how fucking ignorant of the rules and responsibilities of the Presidency he is. He still acts (and thinks) like he's some big shot business-owner who 'rules' his private fiefdom and can issue commands at will.

MerdedeBrexit · 23/12/2018 15:59

"Just goes to show how fucking ignorant of the rules and responsibilities of the Presidency he is. He still acts (and thinks) like he's some big shot business-owner who 'rules' his private fiefdom and can issue commands at will."
That is so depressingly true, Across. I don't know how many times I can say he's an absolute disgrace (and think much worse, with many expletives deleted), because the GOP and the Trumpettes are immovable in their support for him, despite everything.

cozietoesie · 23/12/2018 16:08

It's not just his 'ignorance' that gets to me - it's the reasoning behind his........decisions. Self-serving would be a fair description. I doubt he gives a toss about the person in the street. (Except, inasmuch, as they might vote.)

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/12/2018 17:26

New Acting Sec of Defense.

Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89
OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/12/2018 17:27

Wonder if he's ever met him...

cozietoesie · 23/12/2018 17:37

Jan 1??

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/12/2018 17:50

Trump speeds up Mattis’s departure significantly. Aides say he had not realized how critical the defense secretary’s resignation letter was until coverage started playing out on television.
twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1076889711526985728?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/12/2018 17:56

Indeed Trump is pushing Mattis out, from @barbarastarrcnn: A source familiar with the matter said President Trump is mad at the extensive coverage given to James Mattis’ resignation and therefore is forcing him to leave earlier than he originally planned. www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/23/pol…
www.cnn.com/2018/12/23/politics/james-mattis-trump-shanahan/index.html
twitter.com/mkraju/status/1076887102699302912?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/12/2018 17:57

Shanahan is a (by all accounts smart and successful) career Boeing executive with no policymaking experience whose main substantive role as Deputy Secretary was working on the “space force” stuff that’s obviously of great interest to the aerospace industry.
twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1076899389346582528?s=21

AcrossthePond55 · 23/12/2018 18:05

Yep. Just what we need. Another tRump-head whose main experience is making money for some corporation. And an aerospace one, at that. Let's just think about all the fucking govt contracts Boeing and its subsidiaries are going to end up with as a result of this! Bloody fecking hell!!

SanFranBear · 23/12/2018 18:53

Happy Christmas to you all... of course, Scrotus doesn't say it despite all his stupid 'let's say Happy Christmas again' crap!

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/23/trump-war-on-christmas-happy-holidays-businesses

cozietoesie · 23/12/2018 20:59

It might affect income! Grin

Happy Xmas All. Smile

lionheart · 23/12/2018 21:21
Smile
yolofish · 23/12/2018 21:45

really sorry to still be here - I mean that in the nicest possible way. And also so sorry for all those individuals and families affected by the govt shutdown - presumable that also affects things like social services?

cozietoesie · 23/12/2018 22:21

I just don't know, yolo. One of the US posters might tell you.

Gumpendorf · 23/12/2018 22:42

President Bone Spurs was too much of a coward to tell Mattis himself. Mike Pompeo did it.

He's all for national security when it comes to money for a wall, but much less concerned about it when he's destabilising the defense dept.

Trump himself has not spoken to Mattis since Thursday, when the secretary resigned, and did not want to talk to Mattis so directed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to inform the defense secretary on Sunday morning of the decision to remove him by the end of the year, according to a senior administration official.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-forces-mattis-out-two-months-early-names-shanahan-acting-defense-secretary/2018/12/23/b78a0478-06d2-11e9-a3f0-71c95106d96a_story.html

Lweji · 23/12/2018 22:48

'I will not be going to Florida because of the Shutdown - Staying in the White House!'

Yes, because the Secret Service won't deploy extra staff, probably. And cause rain or something.

Lweji · 23/12/2018 22:50

Mulvaney: DHS 'can’t actually' make Mexico pay for border wall

thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/422655-mulvaney-dhs-cant-actually-make-mexico-pay-for-border-wall

TheClaws · 23/12/2018 23:20

Crackpot Fox talking head chats to another crackpot talking head, spinning the latest issue. Unfortunately this resonates with the Trump base, who will repeat it verbatim.

Jeanine Pirro @JudgeJeanine
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.@SebGorka joined me with his reaction to the Dems choosing to shut down our government instead of securing our southern border.

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TheClaws · 23/12/2018 23:35

Senator Rand Paul goes all weird on Twitter.

Senator Rand Paul @RandPaul
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⚡️ “Senator Rand Paul's 2018 #Festivus Tweetstorm”

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lionheart · 24/12/2018 00:19

Rand has gone off piste or something.