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Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89

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TheClaws · 23/12/2018 07:09

It’s chaos in Trump’s world, more so than usual, with #TrumpResign trending in Twitter after a number of key debacles: the pull-out of US troops from Syria, the resignation of General Jim Mattis, and the shutdown of the government over Christmas due to bipartisan disagreement over wall funding. (Those are just 3 issues.) The next few weeks will be rocky.

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lionheart · 27/12/2018 10:52

Even on that short trip to Iraq the Trumpers flout the rules.

I thought the MAGA hats were bad enough, not to mention the flag but that video elevates it to a new level of Trumpery.

TheClaws · 27/12/2018 10:56

Images of Trump signing MAGA hats for troops in Iraq prompted this tweet. This is actually illegal.

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Ah, okay, so this was a campaign event. I see.

@GOP, better tap into those election dollars for this.

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lionheart · 27/12/2018 10:56

Jennifer Epstein (Bloomberg)

Verified account

'Trump flag (she dropped it after she saw me taking a photo).'

Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89
TheClaws · 27/12/2018 10:58

BTW, good work on the troll deflection Smile

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lionheart · 27/12/2018 11:06

We haven't had one for a while.

lionheart · 27/12/2018 13:19

This about covers it:

Trumpy

"Harvard Law professor wallops Donald Trump as ‘a f*cking idiot with no moral compass.’"

Gumpendorf · 27/12/2018 13:20

He's so brave Grin.

Not concerned about himself but for the institution of the presidency. 🤯

Mr. Trump, who left the White House late Christmas night, said he had harbored some safety concerns about the trip.
I had concerns for the institution of the presidency because, not for myself, personally,” he said. “I had concerns for the first lady, I will tell you. But if you would have seen what we had to go through, with the darkened^ plane, with all windows closed, with no lights on whatsoever, anywhere ~^pitch black. I’ve never seen it. I’ve been in many airplanes — all types and shapes and sizes. I’ve never seen anything like it.”

www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-iraq-troops-visit.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

lionheart · 27/12/2018 14:11

Photographs from 2018.

www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2018/dec/26/america-in-pictures-2018

Gumpendorf · 27/12/2018 14:16

Ret. Lt. Gen. @MarkHertling says President Trump signing MAGA hats during his trip to troops in Iraq was “over the top.”

“It’s just not appropriate in front of a military audience,” he says about Trump discussing domestic politics during the visit. cnn.it/2BGo0RH twitter.com/NewDay/status/1078250310676533250/video/1

Back in DC. No comment regarding the dark glasses but what is Melania wearing. Her PJs?

AcrossthePond55 · 27/12/2018 14:17

I feel for some of those troops, although I'm sure some of them are Scrotus-groupies. Because not only would they have been commanded to attend, they would have been commanded to 'be happy' about it.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/12/2018 15:01

Trump lawyers, citing shutdown, ask court for delay in emoluments case
www.politico.com/story/2018/12/26/trump-lawyers-shutdown-delay-emoluments-case-1075676

The government’s brief is not due until Jan. 22, but DOJ lawyers asked the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, based in Richmond, Va., to put the appeal on ice until the shutdown ends.

A short time after the government filed the request, the court agreed to put the case on hold indefinitely.

The Justice Department lawyers appear to be asking the appeals court not only to lift the deadlines in the case, but also to extend them by the duration of the shutdown once Congress and the president put new funding in place.

lionheart · 27/12/2018 16:45

www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html

'Cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting.'

AcrossthePond55 · 27/12/2018 17:10

The Justice Department lawyers appear to be asking the appeals court not only to lift the deadlines in the case, but also to extend them by the duration of the shutdown

Well, that's a real incentive for Scrotus to end the shutdown, isn't it?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/12/2018 17:15

He really is an unpleasant little man.

Trump claims without evidence that ‘most of the people not getting paid’ in partial government shutdown are Democrats
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-claims-without-evidence-that-most-of-the-people-not-getting-paid-in-partial-government-shutdown-are-democrats/2018/12/27/afbc992a-09cc-11e9-88e3-989a3e456820_story.html?utm_term=.d34a07da4bb9

Trump made the claim in a morning tweet as the shutdown entered its sixth day, with hundreds of thousands of federal workers furloughed without pay amid signs pointing toward a prolonged standoff.
“Have the Democrats finally realized that we desperately need Border Security and a Wall on the Southern Border,” Trump said in the tweet. “Need to stop Drugs, Human Trafficking, Gang Members & Criminals from coming into our Country. Do the Dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are Democrats?”

The message contrasted with Trump’s claim in an Oval Office appearance on Christmas morning that “many of those workers” had told him to continue to shut down the government “until you get the funding for the wall.”

“These federal workers want the wall,” Trump said at the time.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/12/2018 17:20

We are paying for security for the Mar-a-Lago New Year’s Eve party during the Trump shutdown. Secret Service can continue providing essential security during a lapse of appropriations, but it’s Trump who decides that govt officials need to be at his for-profit event. Shameless!
twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1078338862290747393?s=21

The Government May Be Shut Down, But Taxpayers Are Footing The Bill For Mar-a-Lago Party Tents
qz.com/1506879/trumps-mar-a-lago-party-tents-are-costing-taxpayers-54000/

Frankiestein402 · 27/12/2018 17:33

So grumpy flies in blackout but gets spotted by Mark 1 eyeball and tracked on flightradar....
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46693916 - took off at midnight and landed mid evening - perhaps they did the bit about "dimming the lights for takeoff/landing in the dark" :)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/12/2018 17:53

"Do the Dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are Democrats?"

And if they weren't, they will be if you keep them without pay for long enough.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/12/2018 18:34

U.S. markets stumble after Wednesday’s big rebound, showing volatility amid political uncertainty
www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/27/us-markets-stumble-after-wednesdays-big-rebound/?utm_term=.6de43c27e5a2

U.S. markets were down more than 2 percent in Thursday morning trading, giving up some of their big gains from Wednesday, the best single day of trading in almost a decade.
Rattled by political uncertainty, the Dow Jones industrial average was down more than 475 points in early trading. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index and the tech-heavy Nasdaq composite index were both down 2.14 percent in early trading. Low trading volumes exacerbated the effects of political volatility.
December has been brutal for Wall Street. A number of factors, including a trade conflict with China, interest-rate hikes, President Trump’s attacks on the Federal Reserve and a partial government shutdown, have rattled investors in the worst month since the financial crisis.

Wednesday’s success in U.S. markets was also met with skepticism in Asia and Europe, where markets reopened after a Christmas break. Japan’s Nikkei 225 index jumped nearly 4 percent to 20,077 after suffering big losses earlier in the week. But other Asian markets were relatively neutral. The Shanghai Composite index slipped 0.6 percent to 2,483.09; the Hang Seng Index was down 0.7 percent at 25,478.88. In Europe, post-Christmas performance was shaky. Germany’s DAX fell 0.3 percent to 10,601.98; France’s CAC 40 rose 0.8 percent to 4,664.54. Britain’s FTSE 100 was flat at 6,685.64.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/12/2018 18:38

Probe of Trump's charity could crash 'like a Mack Truck' into his real estate empire
"There seems to be entanglements in terms of people and probably in terms of money," said Mimi Rocah, a former federal prosecutor and NBC News/MSNBC legal analyst.
www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/probe-trump-s-charity-could-crash-mack-truck-his-real-n950576

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