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Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89

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TheClaws · 23/12/2018 07:09

It’s chaos in Trump’s world, more so than usual, with #TrumpResign trending in Twitter after a number of key debacles: the pull-out of US troops from Syria, the resignation of General Jim Mattis, and the shutdown of the government over Christmas due to bipartisan disagreement over wall funding. (Those are just 3 issues.) The next few weeks will be rocky.

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3442038-But-When-the-president-does-it-that-means-it-is-not-illegal-Trump-thread-LXXXVIII

Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89
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Janedoe5000 · 26/12/2018 15:55

What we're witnessing here is a thread full of brainwashed sheep suffering from a classic case of Trump Derangement Syndrome - a condition whereby Donald Trump occupying the too spot leads to adults stamping their feet and coming up with the most ludicrous statements they can in an attempt to impress other like-minded weirdos on internet forums.

How is America leaving Syria a bad thing? Trump campaigned on pulling America out of never-ending wars which consume hundreds of millions of dollars, and achieve nothing.

PerkingFaintly · 26/12/2018 16:29

a condition whereby Donald Trump occupying the too spot leads to adults stamping their feet and coming up with the most ludicrous statements they can in an attempt to impress other like-minded weirdos on internet forums

A condition of which Donald J Trump is clearly patient zero, since he exhibits all of these symptoms.Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 26/12/2018 16:44

Baaasaaa! Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 26/12/2018 16:46

Apologies for the rogue 's' in there. But sheep aren't very good at typing.

PerkingFaintly · 26/12/2018 16:46

By the way, US troops pulling out of Syria may or may not be a bad thing.

But the person occupying the position of President of the United States making a kneejerk security decision (or any other kind of decision) in response to a foreign leader manipulating or flattering him is always a bad thing.

apnews.com/ec2ed217357048ff998225a31534df12
www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/24/ignoring-history-trump-hands-russia-yet-another-win-in-syria/#1c7d514115de

Oh, and if you voted for him because he "campaigned on pulling America out of never-ending wars", he blew that in the first fortnight of his presidency: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Yakla.

Followed by en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Nangarhar_airstrike.

PerkingFaintly · 26/12/2018 16:48

Grin You tried to be a good sheep, TheNorthWestPawsage, but your individualism won out anyway.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 26/12/2018 16:58
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AcrossthePond55 · 26/12/2018 17:02

Shhhh, listen! Did someone say something worth listening to? No? I didn't think so.

As we were.....

Lweji · 26/12/2018 19:20

America leaving Syria is good for... those staying.

Did we just have a sheep in wolf's clothes?

lionheart · 26/12/2018 19:46

Trump in Iraq (so no--one notices the NYT bone-spurs report)?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/12/2018 20:19

What we're witnessing here is a thread full of brainwashed sheep suffering from a classic case of Trump Derangement Syndrome - a condition whereby Donald Trump occupying the too spot leads to adults stamping their feet and coming up with the most ludicrous statements they can in an attempt to impress other like-minded weirdos on internet forums.

If you’d read the threads, you’d see that no blanket proclamations are made just for the sake of being anti-trump.

From the last thread:

Check out ted lieu’s twitter. He isn’t claiming that Isis has been defeated but he is supportive of trump’s actions.

I think he may well have a point but my issue is more with the process (or lack thereof) that trump showed in reaching this decision and what the motivations could be that are fuelling it.

Lieu says in response to someone querying this

President Deals
@schroedinger_
It's possible to do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Ted Lieu
@tedlieu
Replying to
@schroedinger_
, and
@POTUS
Yes. But I still support the right thing.

I’ve felt this about some of the things trump has done - a stopped clock can be right occasionally. (I’m not saying that this is the case here btw, I’m not informed enough to know!)

cozietoesie · 26/12/2018 20:54

Thanks, lion.Smile

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/12/2018 21:31

On the subject of Trump's scientific outlook, there is his insistence about the cause of California's having had such disastrous fires for the past five years or so:

www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article223445505.html

He cited the “forest nation” of Finland, which Trump said spends “a lot of time raking and cleaning and doing things, and they don’t have any problem.”

Except that they don't, they just live in a different part of the world and have rather a lot of snow for much of the year.

lionheart · 26/12/2018 23:01

The fact that Trump is not big on science might have an advantage. Smile

Shutdowns, military pullouts, and resignations: it’s Christmas and Trump thread 89
cozietoesie · 27/12/2018 00:57

Ouch!Grin

MerdedeBrexit · 27/12/2018 06:27

What's chilling is that that cartoon is well over a year old, and nothing has changed.

Gumpendorf · 27/12/2018 07:37

Sighs...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-navy-seal-iraq-video-1272102

President Donald Trump and the White House communications team revealed that a U.S. Navy SEAL team was deployed to Iraq after the president secretly traveled to the region to meet with American forces serving in a combat zone for the first time since being elected to office.
While the commander-in-chief can declassify information, usually the specific special operations unit is not revealed to the American public, especially while U.S. service members are deployed. Official photographs and videos typically blur the individual faces of special operation forces, due to the sensitive nature of their job.
The president’s video posted Wednesday did not shield the faces of special operation forces. Current and former Defense Department officials told Newsweek that information concerning what units are deployed and where is almost always classified and is a violation of operational security.

Gumpendorf · 27/12/2018 07:41

As we gear up for the 2019 battles ...

"In a Democracy, things matter when we make them matter"

"Don't let anyone tell you 'nothing matters' because you will decide if it matters to you" - @AriMelber twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1078076876109815810/video/1

Lweji · 27/12/2018 09:16

The interesting part of the previous link about forest management isn't so much the Finnish reference, but the call for more logging on state owned land dressed as concern for fires.
I'd bet all you like that it wouldn't/won't thin out forests. Just make them smaller and smaller.

www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article223445505.html

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/12/2018 09:16

Much Twitter speculation that Bozo and wife will 'stop off' in Florida on their way back from Iraq. How serendipitous for them.

Meanwhile the true heroes persist:
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg released from hospital after cancer surgery
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/26/ruth-bader-ginsburg-released-hospital-cancer-surgery?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

lionheart · 27/12/2018 10:50

And here (from a few months back but we'll call it a retrospective or New Year pick-me-up):

www.wired.com/story/robert-mueller-vietnam/

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