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But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII

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lionheart · 03/12/2018 22:47

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But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII
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TheClaws · 10/12/2018 06:33

The passage below is from this link: www.russiamatters.org/news/russia-review/russia-review-nov-30-dec-7-2018

U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volker has said that Russia needs to release the Ukrainian sailors taken captive by Christmas or before the new year, according to VOA. Volker said one measure of constraining Russia under consideration is cutting Russian banks from the international SWIFT banking network.

Now, this may not seem interesting in itself. The article above is dated Nov 30-Dec 7. I saw a tweet by a US commentator saying that Russia has sent letters to banks stating their SWIFT connection may be lost. This, taken with the above intel about military buildup at the Ukraine border, implies Russia may be about to take military action they are aware the majority of the world would not approve. (SWIFT is essentially the worldwide interconnected bank network.)

Olga Lautman @olgaNYC1211
Dec 7
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Russia’s Central bank sends a letter to at least 5 banks advising them to find a replacement partner in case they get disconnected from SWIFT pic.twitter.com/WcagOMuQLR

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/12/2018 10:23

The Mysterious Return of Manafort’s ‘Russian Brain’
Mueller says that the former Trump campaign chairman repeatedly lied about his interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a man with ties to Russian intelligence.

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/mueller-manafort-lied-about-russian-brain-kilimnik/577693/

Carole Cadwalladr
‏*@carolecadwalla*
Oleg Deripaska has been at heart of British establishment for more than a decade. He has close relationship with man Mueller describes as Russian "asset". He's bought a member of the house of lords. Who refuses to answer parliament's questions. But no, nothing to see...

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/12/2018 11:53

Bill Browder
‏*@Billbrowder*
BREAKING: This morning the EU Council of foreign ministers unanimously approved the Dutch EU Magnitsky Act proposal. It will now be developed into concrete legislation.

Roussette · 10/12/2018 14:01

And this from former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance Trump revoked (which has been denounced by 12 former CIA chiefs as an attempt to stifle free speech)

John O. Brennan
✔
@JohnBrennan
Whenever you send out such inane tweets, I take great solace in knowing that you realize how much trouble you are in & how impossible it will be for you to escape American justice. Mostly, I am relieved that you will never have the opportunity to run for public office again.

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
....which it was not (but even if it was, it is only a CIVIL CASE, like Obama’s - but it was done correctly by a lawyer and there would not even be a fine. Lawyer’s liability if he made a mistake, not me). Cohen just trying to get his sentence reduced. WITCH HUNT!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/12/2018 14:18

The first bit of Trump's tweets

Donald J. Trump
‏*@realDonaldTrump*
“Democrats can’t find a Smocking Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey’s testimony. No Smocking Gun...No Collusion.” @FoxNews That’s because there was NO COLLUSION. So now the Dems go to a simple private transaction, wrongly call it a campaign contribution,...

....which it was not (but even if it was, it is only a CIVIL CASE, like Obama’s - but it was done correctly by a lawyer and there would not even be a fine. Lawyer’s liability if he made a mistake, not me). Cohen just trying to get his sentence reduced. WITCH HUNT!

Roussette · 10/12/2018 14:22

Just in case you are unsure what a 'smocking gun' is... Grin

But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII
MerdedeBrexit · 10/12/2018 14:30

Thanks for that image, Roussette. Grin

Thing is, whilst anyone with half a brain acknowledges that Trump is a half-wit out only to line his own pockets, though some of the intelligent millionaires will continue to vote for him because it suits their business/financial purposes to be subject to reduced taxes, it is worrying how many of his "base" still feel he can do no wrong, and worse, still believe all Trump's lies about Obama, despite proof of the exact opposite. If you see what I mean.
I am so fed up with all this. Even just staying put in my echo-chamber, if you see what I mean?

Roussette · 10/12/2018 14:54

Oh yes I agree.

I do wonder if he really can be that stupid to make such a spelling mistake not once, but twice. Is he trying to divert?

MerdedeBrexit · 10/12/2018 15:05

Roussette, I think he's uneducated and ignorant, despite the expensive schooling his father bought him, and he isn't at all ashamed of that.

cozietoesie · 10/12/2018 17:37

Thanks, Roussette.

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lionheart · 10/12/2018 18:06

I rather like the 'smocking gun.' Smile

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MerdedeBrexit · 10/12/2018 18:14

So, more "At Home With the Conways".

George Conway @gtconway3d

No, the criminal campaign-finance violations were found by professional line prosecutors in a Republican-controlled United States Department of Justice. It looks like a pretty good case. Kudos to them.
Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

“Democrats can’t find a Smocking Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey’s testimony. No Smocking Gun...No Collusion.” @FoxNews That’s because there was NO COLLUSION. So now the Dems go to a simple private transaction, wrongly call it a campaign contribution,...
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Lweji · 10/12/2018 18:22

"Traitor" Carson GrinGrinGrin

“I don’t think he’s capable,” Carlson went on.

“I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system.

www.theguardian.com/media/2018/dec/07/tucker-carlson-fox-news-trump-interview-turns

PerkingFaintly · 10/12/2018 19:38

Russia hack 'bid to discredit' UK anti-disinformation campaign - Foreign Office
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46509956

The [Foreign Office] spokesperson said: "The Institute for Statecraft, an independent charity, was hacked several weeks ago and numerous documents were published and amplified by Kremlin news channels.

"The Russian state media campaign's objective is clear. This is yet another example of Russian disinformation intended to confuse audiences and discredit an organisation which is working independently to tackle the threat of disinformation."

They added: "The Institute for Statecraft is independent of government and is non-partisan. We fund them on that basis.

"Their retweeting of articles critical of both the government and opposition shows no systemic bias, though they have undertaken to review their editorial policy."

(Basically, Russian media have been trying to make a big deal out of the Institute retweeting some news articles critical of Labour, while ignoring the Institute retweeting of news articles critical of the Tories. Big ol' stirry stick.)

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lionheart · 10/12/2018 20:26

www.thedailybeast.com/washington-post-introduces-bottomless-pinocchio-factcheck-level-for-trump

'The Washington Post Fact Checker has introduced a new dishonesty rating custom-made for the Trump era: the “Bottomless Pinocchio.” The newspaper says the new tier will be issued to politicians who “repeat a false claim so many times that they are, in effect, engaging in campaigns of disinformation.” In order to be awarded the Bottomless Pinocchio, the claims must have received three or four Pinocchios from the Fact Checker, and must have been repeated 20 times. Fourteen statements made by Trump already qualify for the list—no other politician has yet been given the dubious honor. In an article announcing the introduction of the new level, the Post condemns Trump and says: “He is not merely making gaffes or misstating things, he is purposely injecting false information into the national conversation.” The most repeated falsehood so far, according to the Fact Checker, is Trump’s assertion that his tax cut was the biggest in history, followed by his exaggerations of the size of U.S. trade deficits.'

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lionheart · 10/12/2018 20:33

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/09/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-the-net-closes

'Contempt and indignation, however deserved, won’t end the presidency of Donald Trump. What’s needed is the operation of the law. That may be coming closer.'

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/12/2018 21:17

Shimon Prokupecz
@ShimonPro
A source close to the WH says former NJ gov Chris Christie is also under consideration for Chief of Staff. The source said Christie is considered a "strong option" a this point, adding Trump wants "a functioning White House."

@Acosta

cozietoesie · 10/12/2018 21:19

How is Rupert's health?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/12/2018 21:31

Which Rupert?

Big Cases Bot
@big_cases
New filing in United States v. Manafort: Notice (Other)

www.documentcloud.org/documents/5498699-Notice-Other.html

cozietoesie · 10/12/2018 21:38

Mr Murdoch.

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lionheart · 10/12/2018 22:00

I don't know about Christie--didn't he help put Jared Senior away?

And this.

www.newsweek.com/chris-christie-prosecutors-likely-have-corroborating-evidence-trump-violated-1251307?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

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