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ohmymimi · 27/10/2018 21:41

He never considered for a nanosecond not holding his rally:
Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Trump says he thought at first he should cancel his rally today, but: "We can't let evil change our life and change our schedule. We can't do that. We have to go and do whatever we were going to do. Otherwise we give them too much credit...you go with a heavy heart, but you go."

Trump on doing his campaign rally tonight: "I'll go. Not that I want to go. But I think I actually, in reverse, have an obligation to go."

QuietContraryMary · 27/10/2018 22:05

I wonder if Trump will blame this on Clinton.

Couldn't think of a pithy quote so have this instead.  Trump #85
ohmymimi · 27/10/2018 22:06

'Trump era unique for violent extremists inspired by US president.
Rachel Maddow looks at the violent, racist, extremist groups that seek out street violence in the name of supporting Donald Trump, and wonders what will happen when Trump-inspired extremists collide with Trump-pressured law enforcement.'
Oct. 27, 2018
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-era-unique-for-violent-extremists-inspired-by-us-president-1354409027794?v=railb&cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

Chip Marsh Jr
@chip_marsh
No one, & I mean not a single Media outlet, @MSNBC @CNN @ABC @CBSNews or @NBCNews has reported about where Trump rallies take place, or who attends them. After Trump's Washington Mi. rally I started to get suspicious on why this location was chosen with its proximity to Detroit.
venue for the Washington Mi. Rally that was 45 minutes away from where Airforce one would have landed when Detroit has much bigger & more conveniently accessible venues?
Answer: Because Washington Michigan is the Epicenter for Michigan Militias.
The MLM, (Michigan Liberty Militia), the MMC, & the MMCW, one of which produced Terry Nichols & Timothy McVeigh, all use a location near Washington Michigan for their annual events.
So I started looking into other Trump rally locations & Surprise, Most are near Militia group
Militia groups, White Supremacist groups, & other Hate groups who claim to be Evangelical Christian groups. The Media needs to start using the Southern Poverty Law Centers map as a guide & Trump Rally locations will become clear. Trump is Radicalizing his base of Hate.
Here's some more interesting information on Hate Groups & Trump Rally locations. Check out the highlighted counties on these 2 maps. Look at MI, OH, WV, PA, MT, AZ, FL, SC & IA, Check out where Trump rallies were in comparison to highlighted counties.
Here's an interesting article supporting what I've been saying.
There is way too many connections here to be ignored.
The Geography of Hate Groups in the U.S.
Organized hate groups are found in 340 counties—but those counties spread across every state of the union.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.citylab.com/amp/article/555689/
Here are the known Hate Groups within driving distance from Trump's Montana rally last night.
Radix Journal
Whitefish, Montana
ACT for America
Kalispell, MontanaANTI-MUSLIMACT FOR AMERICA
The Daily Stormer
Montana (statewide)NEO-NAZI
American Freedom Party
Montana (statewide)WHITE NATIONALISTAMERICAN FREEDOM PARTY
HEADQUARTERS
American Security Rally of Montana
Montana (statewide)ANTI-MUSLIM
Endangered Souls RC/Crew 519
Idaho (statewide)NEO-NAZI
True Cascadia
Idaho (statewide)WHITE NATIONALIST
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cozietoesie · 28/10/2018 00:18

Thanks for the link to that Beast piece, lion. It was thought provoking.

TheClaws · 28/10/2018 00:32

No. He wouldn’t have considered cancelling a rally for even the tiniest moment.

TheClaws · 28/10/2018 00:37

I’ve found a good news site that curates articles from different angles (left, impartial, right). It’s fascinating to see how one issue can be slanted subtly to suit an audience, and for our needs we can fact-check before we send into the ether.

knowherenews.com/

TheClaws · 28/10/2018 01:06

A not-quite-sincere apology.

FOX & friends Retweeted

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Joining pals @edhenry @PeteHegseth & Rachel Campos Duffy on @foxandfriends to apologize for conjuring false flags & doubting obvious evidence serial bomber was a fan of @realDonaldTrump & to remind folks #CesarSayoc's a steroid abusing whacko who was radicalized long before Trump

lionheart · 28/10/2018 01:15

Non-apology apology.

Also nothing whatsoever to see here (on account if it's been deleted):

www.jta.org/2018/10/24/top-headlines/house-majority-leader-kevin-mccarthy-deletes-tweet-saying-george-soros-tom-steyer-michael-bloomberg-buying-years-elections

TheClaws · 28/10/2018 02:15

At his rally today, Trump said this (quoted from Breitbart):

Republicans want strong borders, no crime, and no caravans. We don’t want caravans. We’re not having caravans.” Crowd chants “build the wall.” Trump again teases that “something” is going to happen next week re: caravan. “You’re going to be very happy,” Trump says, adding that the “military is going to the border.” He says the military is “ready” and again tells the caravan to “turn around… you’re not coming in. I’m sorry.”

That’s Republicans want strong borders, no crime, and no caravans. We don’t want caravans. We’re not having caravans.” Crowd chants “build the wall.” Trump again teases that “something” is going to happen next week re: caravan. “You’re going to be very happy,” Trump says, adding that the “military is going to the border.” He says the military is “ready” and again tells the caravan to “turn around… you’re not coming in. I’m sorry.”^

That’s my added bolding. This is another siren call to MAGA crazies with guns to assemble at the border and do his bidding.

TheClaws · 28/10/2018 02:16

Whoops! Sorry for the double paste.

TheClaws · 28/10/2018 06:15

Compares himself to Abraham Lincoln using the tweet of a loony he pardoned from a felony conviction. Incidentally, this is a clip from an interview D'Souza did with the NRA’s Dana Loesch. Only the best people! On the worst days!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted Dinesh D'Souza
Very interesting!
Donald J. Trump added,

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When Lincoln, an outsider and a Republican, won the election of 1860, all hell broke loose and Democrats went berserk. Sound familiar?

Catch my full @NRATV interview with @DLoesch: dineshdsouza.com/nratv

BolleauxtoBankers · 28/10/2018 07:03

I've only just found this article from Marie Claire in early October, by Charles Pierce of Esquire, and linked via Yahoo, for reasons beyond my technological savvy. My apologies if you've already seen this on an earlier thread, but it is exactly what I've been thinking but was unable to express properly, since Trump's election.
A vessel for all the worst elements of the American condition. And a cheap, soulless bully besides.

Roussette · 28/10/2018 07:25

So Trump tweets this last night... after the dreadful shooting, could he not just show some sort of empathy for say 24 hours?
He has no filter, no heart

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Watching the Dodgers/Red Sox final innings. It is amazing how a manager takes out a pitcher who is loose & dominating through almost 7 innings, Rich Hill of Dodgers, and brings in nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked. 4 run lead gone. Managers do it all the time, big mistake!

InkyGrail · 28/10/2018 07:31

I talked to a client of mine about this exact layout for a news site that showed different angles of reporting on issues of the day. I'm really glad one exists. Thank you for the link TheClaws

ohmymimi · 28/10/2018 07:34

DD doing double duty yesterday:
Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Trump is doing a campaign rally in Murphysboro, Illinois. Tweets in this thread. Mute if this is too much Trump for one afternoon.
Trump on the shooting and the rally: "We have our lives. We have our schedules. And nobody's going to change it. So we're here. And let's have a good time. And if you don't mind: I'm going to tone it down just a little bit." Many in the crowd yell: "Noooo."
mobile.twitter.com/ddale8/status/1056301524320686080

ohmymimi · 28/10/2018 07:40

Knowwhere News - Great find, Claws, thank you.

ohmymimi · 28/10/2018 07:48

Sara Kosiorek
@SaraKosiorek
Who’s going to tell him that the Dodgers’ strategy is to do everything they can to avoid getting an invite to the White House?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 28/10/2018 07:52

Fox News headlines....

Couldn't think of a pithy quote so have this instead.  Trump #85
ohmymimi · 28/10/2018 07:57

Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
Straight out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Just moments ago, Lou Dobbs guest Chris Farrell (head of Judicial Watch) says Caravan is being funded/directed by the "Soros-occupied State Department".
mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1056324117329297409/video/1
2/ For those who don't know this world, "ZOG" is a staple of white supremacist/neo-Nazi websites/literature etc. Stands for "Zionist occupied government", i.e., US govt being controlled by Jews. This guy knows exactly what lever he's pulling when he uses this phrase.
3/ Chris Farrell, the guy in the interview is "Director of Investigations" at @JudicialWatch
4/ Final point. Shooter was clearly a virulent anti-semite of long standing. But what appears to have triggered his rampage is exactly THIS conspiracy theory, that Soros and Jews are funding/directing the caravan. This is little the guy's beef. Pushed on FoxBiz not 12 hrs later.
mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1056324117329297409

TheNorthWestPawsage · 28/10/2018 08:06

From Bolleaux's link this > >
'But we never have had such a cheap counterfeit of a president as currently occupies the office'