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ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 18:44

'Pittsburgh shooting: It's too late for Trump to be credible on uniting US against hate'
Jimmy Carter meant it when he said, after helicopters crashed in the desert on their way to rescue American hostages in Iran, "It was my decision to attempt the rescue operation. It was my decision to cancel it when problems developed in the placement of our rescue team for a future rescue operation. The responsibility is fully my own. ... I know that our entire nation feels the deep gratitude I feel for the brave men who were prepared to rescue their fellow Americans from captivity...."
..... Barack Obama meant it when he said, after the shooting in Tucson, Arizona, that killed six and grievously injured then-Rep. Gabby Giffords, among others, "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another, that’s entirely up to us. And I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us."
Obama meant it when he said, after the school shooting rampage in Newtown, Connecticut, "Can we honestly say that we’re doing enough to keep our children — all of them — safe from harm? ... I've been reflecting on this the last few days, and if we’re honest with ourselves, the answer is no. We’re not doing enough. And we will have to change."
And he meant it when he said, after a white supremacist gunman killed nine in a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina, "As a nation, out of this terrible tragedy, God has visited grace upon us, for he has allowed us to see where we’ve been blind. He has given us the chance, where we’ve been lost, to find our best selves."
eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/29/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-too-late-trump-credible-hate-column/1800120002/

Roussette · 29/10/2018 18:53

Oh my.

Just watched the SarahS Presser. They are so infrequent nowadays I thought I would look in.

She sounded absolutely deranged at the end. She defended DJT, lied, made up stuff, had tears in her eyes when talking about Trump's jewish grandchildren, then went off on one at the end like a complete loon

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 18:54

From the Press Secretary of the USA minutes ago '...... the president was elected by a (sic) overwhelming majority of 63 million people'

cozietoesie · 29/10/2018 19:27

They were kind to her. That's revealing........

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 19:28

DD thread on that 'presser'. The surprising thing would be if Slanders said anything surprising or true, but she never surprises, she just lives right down to the depths our expectations:
Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Sarah Sanders is giving a speech-like statement on the Pittsburgh massacre that one might usually have expected a president to give.
mobile.twitter.com/ddale8/status/1056982560432185344

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 19:42

He's given up the dog whistle for the bullhorn:
Daniel Dale
@ddale8
There's no evidence Andrew Gillum is a thief. That's the first time Trump has called someone a thief on Twitter. Gillum is a Black man.

@realDonaldTrump
In Florida there is a choice between a Harvard/Yale educated man named @RonDeSantisFL who has been a great Congressman and will be a great Governor - and a Dem who is a thief and who is Mayor of poorly run Tallahassee, said to be one of the most corrupt cities in the Country!

mobile.twitter.com/ddale8/status/1056925376390316032

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 20:26

Petrol meet flame:
Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
Trump's next TV interview -->

Laura Ingraham
@IngrahamAngle
Heading over to the White House to interview @realDonaldTrump for tonight’s show. Lots of ground to cover.

cozietoesie · 29/10/2018 20:34

I confess to wondering whether Huckleberry's statement about China would impact the markets. 🙂

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 20:36

'David Horowitz attacks former Tree of Life president: "The hate is coming from people like this rabbi who insist on demonizing the president"
Horowitz: Trump "doesn't spew hate." He's "kind of actually funny in his attacks." '
www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/10/29/david-horowitz-attacks-former-tree-life-president-hate-coming-people-rabbi-who-insist-demonizing/221899

cozietoesie · 29/10/2018 20:36

Answer: it did.

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 20:41

He said 'they are coming in with smallpox, leprosy and tb' He is an ex ICE agent:
Andrew Lawrence
@ndrew_lawrence
Just now a Fox News guest says the migrants may have "leprosy" and warns that "they're gonna infect our people in the United States"
mobile.twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1057004782311927808/video/1

lionheart · 29/10/2018 20:45

Here's where you can dip into the cesspit that is the alt-right.

angrywhitemen.org/2018/10/08/why-are-supporters-of-a-white-supremacist-terror-group-allowed-to-organize-on-gab/

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 20:47

There has not been a single reported case of smallpox since 1980 - CDC.
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00049694.htm

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 20:52

Spookily correct nostradamusingShock
Asawin Suebsaeng
@swin24
She is going to blame “the media” for being mean to Donald Trump and trying to “blame” him. She is doing this briefing today in large part just to get that comms out.
There, I saved you time.

ABC News
@ABC
NEW: White House press secretary Sarah Sanders to hold on-camera briefing at 2 p.m. (link: abcn.ws/2Dc4f7P) abcn.ws/2Dc4f7P

ohmymimi · 29/10/2018 21:22

'Religious Leaders Confront Jeff Sessions in Boston: “I Call on You to Repent” '
“I thought we were here to protect religious liberty,” Hamilton said. “I am a pastor of a Baptist church and you are escorting me out for exercising my religious freedom. That doesn’t make sense. It’s very hypocritical for this group of people to be going to protect religious freedom while you are escorting me out for doing that very work.”
www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2018/10/29/jeff-sessions-boston-bible-verse/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 29/10/2018 21:24

edition.cnn.com/2018/10/29/politics/pentagon-border-troops-migrants/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2018-10-29T21%3A13%3A03&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_term=image

Washington (CNN) 'The Pentagon is preparing to send about 5,000 additional active duty troops to support border authorities' efforts to stop Central American migrants bound for the US, according to a defense official and an official familiar with the current plan.

The announcement comes days before midterm elections in which President Donald Trump has repeatedly warned of dangers related to immigration and of specific but unsubstantiated threats posed by the migrants, who are still weeks away from the US border.
Trump tweeted Monday that the group of Central Americans includes "gang members and some very bad people."'

lionheart · 29/10/2018 22:39

www.newsweek.com/migrant-caravan-us-military-troops-mexico-border-armed-1192578

'The U.S. military will have an actual force of up to 14,000 ready to intervene at the southern border with Mexico, including an additional 7,000 planned deployment in reserves on round-the-clock standby.

The Pentagon announced Monday that it will send up to 5,200 troops to the border ahead of the anticipated arrival of a caravan of Central American migrants that President Donald Trump has warned would not be able to enter the country. These troops, which "are in fact deploying with weapons" will join up to 2,000 National Guards already at the border for a combined force of about 7,200—or about the same amount of U.S. soldiers involved in the battle against the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) in Iraq and Syria.

In addition, a U.S. Defense Department official with knowledge of the deployment—known officially as Operation Faithful Patriot—told Newsweek that "the units deployed right now are of actual strength between 5,000 and 7,000. With another 7,000 on standby on 24-hour notice."'

cozietoesie · 29/10/2018 22:42

Of course he'll go. It's his style. 🙂

cozietoesie · 29/10/2018 22:46

I have a vague memory, lion, that US troops are not, by law, allowed to deploy in the US, though - so whether they can fire those weapons will be another matter entirely.

SanFranBear · 29/10/2018 22:50

A force as powerful as that attacking ISIS in Syria & Iraq.. for a caravan of people, most of whom have fled danger and violence Sad

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