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ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 10:18

'Donald Trump Significantly Alters Journalist's Quote In Tweet About How Honest He Is
Just another day at the (Oval) office.'
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-twitter-honest-quote_uk_5bc72879e4b055bc947c3b8b

(I'd dispute that presidential barometer of truth thing)

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 10:21

Shaub said that if Saudi Arabia’s ruling family can get away with the alleged murder of a Virginia-based journalist for a major American newspaper for the relatively small price of soliciting Trump properties, other dictators would see it as a green light.
“If nothing happens, what’s next? An American citizen gets murdered abroad? Dissidents in exile get killed on American soil?” Shaub wondered.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-saudi-money_us_5bc79d1be4b055bc947d1d3a

Lweji · 18/10/2018 10:30

Ann Coulter disappointed by Trump.
And some "advice" to the left.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/17/ann-coulter-believes-the-left-has-lost-its-mind-should-we-listen?CMP=fb_gu

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 11:57

'Corker: Trump administration 'clamped down' on Saudi intel, canceled briefing'
<a class="break-all" href="https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/411979-corker-administration-clamped-down-on-saudi-intel-cancelled?amp#click=t.co/jeY72MUu2p" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/411979-corker-administration-clamped-down-on-saudi-intel-cancelled?amp#click=t.co/jeY72MUu2p

'Khashoggi disappearance prompts Kushner retreat from Saudi frontlines'
By Kaitlan Collins, Kevin Liptak and Jeremy Diamond, CNN

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/17/politics/jared-kushner-saudi-ties-jamal-khashoggi/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Minimammoth · 18/10/2018 12:53

Not sure if we have had this link to the Guardians article on the Mueller investigation and Russia links.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/18/russian-billionaire-aras-agalarov-company-trump-tower-meeting

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 13:08

Maddow yesterday stuffed with good stuff. Glenn Simpson's lawyer is impressive in the third section.

[The Rachel Maddow Show] North Dakota Native Americans stand up to GOP's targeted voting law
rss.art19.com/episodes/e9d59f56-2391-4676-8bf0-87153277b081.mp3 via @PodcastAddict
9:00 GOP steps up vote suppression as Democrats grow in determination
9:23 Native Americans stand up to targeting by Republican voter ID law
9:33 Twitter reveals massive Russian operation with latest assessment
9:44 Possible Saudi fall guy for Khashoggi also Trump camp middle man
9:53 Trump apparently helping Saudi Arabia on Khashoggi cover story
9:59 Treasury official arrested over leaks to media

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 13:18

Rally binge on for Stinky from today, away from WH for a while:
Montana Missoula October 18 President Trump will attend a campaign rally for Senate candidate Matt Rosendale.
Arizona Mesa October 19 President Trump will attend a campaign rally for Senate candidate Martha McSally.
Nevada Elko October 20 President Trump will attend a campaign rally for Senator Dean Heller.
Texas Houston October 22 President Trump will headline a campaign rally for Senator Ted Cruz.
Wisconsin Mosinee October 24 President Trump will attend a campaign rally for Governor Scott Walker and Senate candidate Leah Vukmir.

Roussette · 18/10/2018 15:06

Is it just me or does anyone think it's a good thing he goes off and does these cult follower rallies? He has to pay people to be there, he lies about the numbers, he comes out with the same old stuff again and again, and even his cult appear to be getting a bit bored with it all, and perhaps those who are wavering could be put off totally ....

I hope this isn't wishful thinking Grin

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 15:06

'Revealed: Russian billionaire set up US company before Trump Tower meeting.
Aras Agalarov, who attended the meeting with Donald Trump Jr in June 2016, formed a shell company with an accountant who has had clients accused of money laundering and embezzlement'
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/18/russian-billionaire-aras-agalarov-company-trump-tower-meeting

PerkingFaintly · 18/10/2018 15:13

Good lord. Liam Fox isn't exactly known for his ethical behaviour and grasp of morality.

If even he's skipping this particular Saudi event, that's notable.

cozietoesie · 18/10/2018 15:30

I don't reckon it is, Roussette. He's emotionally OLD and it's showing.

Gumpendorf · 18/10/2018 15:49

I agree Rousette. I think he is getting diminishing returns from the rallies (and the interviews) - the shock value has gone. The messages are the same, the rants are boring and the media don't cover them any longer because there are so many.

It's more about his needs than the candidates. He needs the adrenaline and the adoration. In some senses it's dangerous.

I have everything crossed that he peaked with the Kavanaugh rants. Wink

Gumpendorf · 18/10/2018 15:50

Advisers tried to talk Trump out of visiting Texas and Wisconsin — where he’s headed next week — bc they argued it was a waste of his time. Ted Cruz is going to win, they said, and Scott Walker is going to lose. My latest w @jdawsey1. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-am-on-the-ticket-trump-seeks-to-make-the-election-about-him-even-if-some-dont-want-it-to-be/2018/10/17/069406f6-d0bc-11e8-a275-81c671a50422_story.html

twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1052901416006836224

Gumpendorf · 18/10/2018 15:55

Convenient....

. twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/status/1052906057679458306

Saudi suspect in Khashoggi disappearance dies in car accident | He was one of the so-called 15 people hit squad. Dies reportedly in a traffic accident in Saudi Arabia with no further detail.

ahvalnews.com/jamal-khashoggi/saudi-suspect-khashoggi-disappearance-reportedly-dies-car-accident-pro-govt-yeni

Minimammoth · 18/10/2018 15:59

I think the orange one is becoming an embarrassment over The Khashoggi case, believing naeively anything MBS tells him. Surely most people see he is being succered, 1million dollar deal or not.
Yes let’s sell more weapons to kill people with. It’s so Christian.
Sorry went off a bit there.

cozietoesie · 18/10/2018 16:03

How many people were in that so-called hit squad? 15 was it? 

Roussette · 18/10/2018 16:20

Yes, 15 of which most of them had close ties to MBS. Coincidence? Nah.

As far as his rallies, even Fox doesn't cover them any more and that's saying something

Ted Cruz is going to win? That Beto O'Rourke is making a big name for himself, that's for sure. A great orator a bit like Obama, and he packs out any venue he's been to, he wiped the floor with Cruz in a live debate, and he's talked about as a potential POTUS. However, this is all probably wishful thinking....

cozietoesie · 18/10/2018 16:25

I wouldn't like to be any of that 15 trying for insurance.

Lweji · 18/10/2018 16:30

On a side note, I've just read about a certain football team in Portugal hiring a Russian company to find out how some compromising emails were hacked.

Grin
Lweji · 18/10/2018 16:33

I expect no conspiracy theories about the Khashoggi curse, when over the next few months all suspects disappear or die in accidents. It's been a long time since defenestration has been mentioned in these threads. Hmm

Lweji · 18/10/2018 16:35

I think he is getting diminishing returns from the rallies (and the interviews) - the shock value has gone. The messages are the same, the rants are boring and the media don't cover them any longer because there are so many.

I bet they're getting more and more expensive too. On account of all those people attending the rallies...

Roussette · 18/10/2018 16:45

Here we go....

More
INTERESTING TIMING: A member of the Saudi Royal Air Force who was one of the 15 Saudis allegedly involved in the killing of JAMAL KHASHOGGI has died in a car accident in Riyadh, according to a Turkish media report.

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 16:53

Outfoxed on the timing, Mnunchkin:
Steven Mnuchin
@stevenmnuchin1
Just met with @realDonaldTrumpand @SecPompeo and we have decided, I will not be participating in the Future Investment Initiative summit in Saudi Arabia.
mobile.twitter.com/stevenmnuchin1/status/1052944784355205120

ohmymimi · 18/10/2018 17:05

Good luck with that:
'The Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee Won’t Restart a Full-On Russia Probe.
If the Democrats take back the House in November, Congressman Adam Schiff says he’ll try to close a hyper-partisan divide on the House Intelligence Committee.'
Representative Chris Stewart, a Republican from Utah who serves on the committee, remained a skeptic. “We were a bipartisan committee until President Trump was elected,” he said. “At that point it became political, with the Democrats reacting to Trump. Based on what I’ve seen, I’m not very optimistic that they will change as long as he is our president.”
www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/573310/?__twitter_impression=true