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At a 19yr Old Transwoman being elected a Labour woman’s officer

476 replies

bambambini · 20/11/2017 08:48

Seems the old WO stepped down after alleged bullying and accusation of transphobia. The new WO is a 19 yr old Transwoman - i think who made many of The allegations against the previous WO.

What experience has a 19 yr old TW got to hold this post - weirder than weird.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8

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CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 20/11/2017 22:08

user1492877024 Nope - 100% in favour of same-sex marriage.

I know you want to believe that those of us who are questioning the transagenda are right-wing daily mail reading bigots, but I think you'll find that's not the case at all; a lot of us will have principals aligned with many of your own and those of the trans (and LBG) community. It's a crying shame that you've managed to alienate so many women who could have very easily been your allies.

NettleTea · 20/11/2017 22:13

Labour Against Terfs have had to change their name - Im guessing it was too official

Now Labour Members against Terfs.

its brilliant. most of their followers are rabid feminists.

I couldnt resist this one

twitter.com/emmasalmon66/status/932732178798141442

we have our Battle sub branch meeting on Thu. I think someone may be resigning as secretary

HemanOrSheRa · 20/11/2017 22:28

They are calling Miranda Yardley a transphobe. How does that work?

MillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 22:29

@BeyondAssignation - Lily has not been on puberty blockers. If you look at their photos, there's not a lot of evidence of HRT either.

Alisvolatpropiis · 20/11/2017 22:35

Miranda Yardy has been subjected to horrendous abuse, bullying and threats at the hands of the translobby for quite some time now

SophoclesTheFox · 20/11/2017 22:36

It all makes total sense in a world where we need to draft in males to fill women’s roles, heman. war is peace, freedom is slavery, trans women are transphobic, adolescent male bodied people are women’s officers...it’s a post modern utopia Confused

HemanOrSheRa · 20/11/2017 22:41

For what it's worth I think Lily is being spectacularly played by some actual grown ups with ulterior motives and things won't be as peachy as they seem right now. Momentum maybe?

Interesting article by Miranda here mirandayardley.com/en/ma-vie-en-rose-ruth-hunts-rose-tinted-transgoggles-and-the-anti-woman-politics-of-stonewall/

TinselTwins · 20/11/2017 22:43

Meanwhile, on the rest of MN, women have no issues in society these days, yay! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3092385-To-really-not-want-daughters?watched=1&msgid=73507567#73507567

ArcheryAnnie · 20/11/2017 22:56

Well Labour certainly won't ever be getting my vote now

anothernetter who can we vote for? Not the Tories (Maria Miller et al), not the Greens (all of them), not the WEP (who are doing a Politburo purge of anyone with TERF tendencies).

I will continue to vote for my sitting MP (a -mid-leftish Labour man who has listened a fair bit on trans issues when I have contacted him, though he still needs to do better), but I admit I'd struggle to vote for Ed Milliband was my MP, after his stupid podcast, even though I have previously loved Ed.

runners656 · 20/11/2017 23:00

For what it's worth I think Lily is being spectacularly played by some actual grown ups with ulterior motives and things won't be as peachy as they seem right now. Momentum maybe?
dont you think theres more important things than the womens officer of a local clp for momentum to be worrying about like purging everyone who disagrees with jez

Betty184 · 20/11/2017 23:02

Interesting article by Miranda here mirandayardley.com/en/ma-vie-en-rose-ruth-hunts-rose-tinted-transgoggles-and-the-anti-woman-politics-of-stonewall/

Excellent article - and much more eloquent that my response to Ruth's article which was essentially 'Aaah! FFS!' after pretty much every sentence!

I can't believe that this (Stonewall) is an organisation that I used to support and donate to but I think most (all?) LGB organisations have gone the same way Sad It does not represent LGB people anymore - and, as Miranda's article shows - not even all the 'T' are happy with the way things are going.

HemanOrSheRa · 20/11/2017 23:05

Not really runner. I've been a TU and Labour Party member for the best part of 30 years. I think this is right up their street actually.

pisacake · 20/11/2017 23:14

Lily has not been on puberty blockers. If you look at their photos, there's not a lot of evidence of HRT either.

Lily's first gender clinic appointment was literally 3 months ago, where he received some leaflets about hormones. So no he's not.

Also HRT is a DEEPLY inappropriate term to use

It's 'hormone therapy'.

pisacake · 20/11/2017 23:16

"For what it's worth I think Lily is being spectacularly played by some actual grown ups with ulterior motives and things won't be as peachy as they seem right now. Momentum maybe?"

Lily is a massive Jezza fanboy and has pics with him on his Facebook. He asked Jezza a question about transgender and Jezza said all the right things. Lily is also a Momentum member.

Momentum is a aggressive male-dominated movement, so Lily fits right in.

runners656 · 20/11/2017 23:19

He asked Jezza a question about transgender and Jezza said all the right things. when?

HemanOrSheRa · 20/11/2017 23:24

He asked Jezza a question about transgender and Jezza said all the right things. when? At The National Youth Policy Conference in October this year.

MillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 23:24

Apologies re HRT! Quite right

pisacake · 20/11/2017 23:25

14 october national youth policy conference

www.facebook.com/iamlils/videos/1345165412277911/

HemanOrSheRa · 20/11/2017 23:27

Lily is a massive Jezza fanboy and has pics with him on his Facebook. He asked Jezza a question about transgender and Jezza said all the right things. Lily is also a Momentum member.

Momentum is a aggressive male-dominated movement, so Lily fits right in.

Indeed, pisa. Same goes for tub-thumping little Owen Jones.

pisacake · 21/11/2017 00:54

I had a quick look through Lily's family photos on his mum's Facebook. (people: lock your facebook profiles). There's none of the 'I knew my 5 year old was transgender' sort of stuff. It's just a normal boy on holiday with his family.

It seems like he is just a fairly typical teenage boy who wants to make himself the centre of attention in some way. Which he has obviously done fairly spectactularly.

And he hasn't had to do a damn thing to demonstrate that he is a woman, much less deserving of representing women. It's literally just attention seeking. But for some deluded people this is all completely real and transphobia and civil rights and what not.

SlowlyShrinking · 21/11/2017 01:14

Labour members against terfs doesn’t seem to exist on twitter anymore. At least I don’t think so 🤔

cafeaulaitpourvous · 21/11/2017 07:06

It did exist - wish I had screen shotted last nights flurry of craziness

At a 19yr Old Transwoman being elected a Labour woman’s officer
SlowlyShrinking · 21/11/2017 07:12

I know! I saw it. Didn’t mean to imply it didn’t, only that I might have missed it somehow. Hopefully someone somewhere will have screenshotted it

cafeaulaitpourvous · 21/11/2017 07:29

@SlowlyShrinking sorry I didn’t mean that - I wondered if I had just imagined it.....

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