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We're not on a 17 day vacation, not us. We have meetings and calls! Now where did that golf ball go?...Trump cont.

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MicrowaveSpy · 07/08/2017 08:51

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orlantina · 14/08/2017 08:41

Go Daddy have told the Daily Stormer to find a new hosting service

techcrunch.com/2017/08/13/godaddy-tells-white-supremacist-site-daily-stormer-to-find-a-new-domain-provider/

That's not gone down well.

orlantina · 14/08/2017 08:42

The tweet was made in response to one by The New Agenda founder Amy Suskind calling on GoDaddy to ban Daily Stormer for posting a obscene article about Heather Heyer, who was killed in Charlottesville on Saturday after being hit by a car allegedly driven by James Alex Fields Jr. into a crowd. Fields has been charged with second-degree murder.

Heyer was among a group protesting the Unite the Right white supremacist rally this weekend, which the Daily Stormer helped organize and promote.

In an email to TechCrunch, a GoDaddy spokesperson said “We have informed The Daily Stormer that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another provider, as they have violated our terms of service. If no action is taken after 24 hours, we will cancel the service. Given this latest article comes on the immediate heels of a violent act, we believe this type of article could incite additional violence, which violates our terms of service.”

I fear for Amy Siskind. I hate to imagine the kind of abuse she gets.

badbadhusky · 14/08/2017 08:52

If I was on FB, I'd send Amy a message of support.

orlantina · 14/08/2017 08:55

Twitter

twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/896935755817332736

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We informed The Daily Stormer that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another provider, as they have violated our terms of service.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/08/2017 08:59

There have been some really informative threads about the endemic racial divide in reponse to what happened at Charlottesville. They're too long to copy and paste but here's where you can find them:

An amazing eyeopening (or consolidating) thread about systemic racism:

Shree ✊🏾 ❤️ 🇺🇸‏Verified account
@shreec
The amount of whitesplaining I am hearing tonight from within the resistance is deeply upsetting.

I urge my white followers to reflect.

twitter.com/shreec/status/896571724384391168

Eric Garland‏Verified account @ericgarland

For my entire life, the South has threatened to rise again.

Yesterday, its true battle plans were finally revealed.

twitter.com/ericgarland/status/896721078327836672

Marco Rogers‏
@polotek
I want to connect some dots that y'all might still be missing about what it means that white supremacy has support in the white house.

twitter.com/polotek/status/896796720738123776

Brittany Packnett‏Verified account
@MsPackyetti
In this time of peril, I hope to be instructive + help provoke folks toward action.

Before you act, identify where you are.

[a thread]

twitter.com/MsPackyetti/status/896809122460450818

Black Aziz Ansari 👏‏
@Freeyourmindkid

  1. I think that I just figured out why what happened in #Charlottesville was so jarring for me. It wasn't simply that Nazis showed up and

twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/896595986977611776

Linda Tirado‏ @KillerMartinis

A note on white supremacy, and why you should be careful who you listen to:

twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/896765782213971968

James Fallows‏Verified account
@JamesFallows
James Fallows Retweeted Vice President Pence

  1. Two points on political leadership and language in times of crisis.
Minor pt: the first million times someone said “thoughts & prayers”..

twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/896612429735526400

Tony Choi 🆒‏
@tonykchoi
This was the Japanese General Government in Seoul. It was a beautifl neoclassical architecture designed by Georg De Lalande, a German.

twitter.com/tonykchoi/status/865696461312466944

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/08/2017 09:04

I think you have to click on Shree's last tweet on that thread to load more of her tweets on the thread (there are over 100 I think) but it really is worth a look.

LukeCagesWife · 14/08/2017 09:38

Orlantina, I have been thinking that ALT-RIGHT recruitment and brainwashing techniques (SM, notions of superiority etc) are exactly the same as those of ISIS, and (both) need to be researched and reversed.

I find it irritating that Sat's match was to protect white culture and society - from what exactly? White culture is mainstream, multiculturalism by its very nature is inclusive and protective of all (within reason), the country has a white divisive President what more do they want?

It feeds to the saying When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

In fact, what is the white culture that is under threat? Language? Food? Dress? Religion?

Oh I have it, celebration of the defenders of Slavery. Because we should be so very proud of them. Hmm

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/08/2017 09:44

Adam Khan @Khanoisseur
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20 May
Must-read thread: While drafting laws to exclude Jews from civic life, Nazis keenly studied how U.S. suppressed immigrants and minorities.

mobile.twitter.com/_jeffguo/status/865919697509908480

LukeCagesWife · 14/08/2017 09:47

Typo:

In fact, whatelement of white culture that is under threat? Language? Food? Dress? Religion?

Why do these people feel so disaffected, how are they threatened? Trump is a fool for courting this lot, when they turn against him they will do it quickly as seen with the 'remember who put you there' tweet.

The comparisons with the rise of Nazi Germany is just chilling, we have the rhetoric, the 'enemy', the head man and his crew, the rallies and now we have the marches.

I'm waiting for the ghostwritten publication of 'Mein Kampf - The Twitter volume'.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/08/2017 09:51

Luke

What element of white culture is at threat? White privilege.

LukeCagesWife · 14/08/2017 10:09

Pain yes that's it exactly isn't it Sad and it's not like diverse (PoC, LGBT, Disabled) even got that far in the first place.

The West was gettin somewhere with inclusiveness and equality, Lord knows it has taken long enough and we were only at the starting point. Yet in a fell swoop the genie is back out of the bottle with Brexit and Trump.

How do we come back from this?

cozietoesie · 14/08/2017 10:13

You come back. Smile

CaveMum · 14/08/2017 10:28

I've just checked the Go Fund Me page for Dre Harris - it is now at $106k after being open less than 24 hours.

A little bit of faith restored in humanity.

Rhodiolia · 14/08/2017 10:29

I just wanted to post to say thank you for these threads. I have very little to add, as I know very little about American politics, but your posts are enlightening. I am learning a huge amount from you guys and I want to say it is appreciated. I am sure I am not the only lurker out there relying on these threads to stay abreast of Trumps actions (and inaction!). These are scary and unpredictable times and this thread is an important resource right now. Thank you.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2017 10:34

Anonymous say they have taken over Daily Stormer:
THIS SITE IS NOW UNDER THE CONTROL OF ANONYMOUS

WE HAVE TAKEN THIS SITE IN THE NAME OF HEATHER HEYER A VICTIM OF WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM

FOR TOO LONG THE DAILY STORMER AND ANDREW ANGLIN HAVE SPEWED THEIR PUTRID HATE ON THIS SITE

THAT WILL NOT BE HAPPENING ANYMORE

WE HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS ON THE SERVERS AND WILL BE RELEASING THE DATA WHEN WE FEEL THE TIME IS RIGHT

WE HAVE ALSO GATHERED LOCATIONAL DATA ON ANGLIN HIMSELF AND ARE SENDING OUR ALLIES IN LAGOS TO PAY HIM A VISIT IN PERSON

THIS EVIL CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO STAND

IT TOOK A UNITED FORCE OF ELITE HACKERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO BREACH THE SYSTEMS AND THE FIREWALL

WE HAVE HAD THE DAILY STORMER IN OUR SITES FOR MONTHS NOW

THE EVENTS OF CHARLOTTESVILLE ALERTED US TO THE NEED FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION

WE WANT YOU NAZIS TO KNOW: YOUR TIME IS SHORT

WE WILL ALLOW THE SITE TO REMAIN ONLINE FOR 24 HOURS SO THE WORLD CAN WITNESS THE HATE

THEN WE WILL SHUT IT DOWN

PERMANENTLY

HACKERS OF THE WORLD HAVE UNITED IN DEFENSE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE

YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED US

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2017 10:35

c/p so as to save everyone else having to bleach their ipad.

bathildabagshot1 · 14/08/2017 10:39

White guys in chinos and polo shirts parading with tiki torches.

What was this the virgin parade?

PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2017 10:41

Thanks, OYBBK, for once again boldly going.

badbadhusky · 14/08/2017 10:45

Another thanks to OYBBK from me too. Just told DH about Anonymous taking down the Daily Stormer & we are both Grin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2017 10:50

that's ok.

ugh. Btw, don't try and visit their forums :-/

PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2017 10:52

In the last few days, I've been moved to re-watch Sally Yates' speech to Harvard Law School graduates in May.

Video here:

Transcript here: time.com/4793996/sally-yates-harvard-law-school-2017-graduation-speech/

This is the bit that really stuck with me (referencing her decision that the DOJ wouldn't argue in favour of the travel ban - for which she was then fired):

"You never know when a situation will present itself in which you will have to decide who you are and what you stand for.
"The defining moments in our lives often don’t come with advance warning. They can arise in scenarios we would have never expected, and don’t come with the luxury of a lot of time for you to go inside yourself for some serious introspection. So how do you prepare for that?"
...
"But I didn’t make the decision just within the 72 hours from the time I learned of the ban until the time I issued the directive. That decision was the result of what others had taught me over my entire 27 years with the Justice Department."
...
"The compass that is inside all of us, that compass that guides us in times of challenge, is being built every day with every experience. I was fortunate to have learned from some inspiring people in my life who not only served as role models, but who challenged my thinking on issues and molded my core.
"Over the course of your life and career, you, too, will face weighty decisions where law and conscience intertwine. And while it may not play out in such a public way, the conflict you will feel will be no less real, and the consequences of your decisions also significant. The time for introspection is all along the way, to develop a sense of who you are and what you stand for. Because you never know when you will be called upon to answer that question."

badbadhusky · 14/08/2017 10:57

Thank you Perking - rousing sentiments in these dark times. Will watch that when I get home. Sally Yates is an impressive woman.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/08/2017 11:05

Missed among the other news from yesterday:

The New York Times
The New York Times @nytimes
Robert Mueller, special counsel for Russia investigation, is said to be asking to interview White House officials

t.co/NScRjASDlZ?amp=1