We're not on a 17 day vacation, not us. We have meetings and calls! Now where did that golf ball go?...Trump cont.

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Charlottesville's Mayor on those statues the demonstrators didn't want removed.

"If they think they're going to stop that kind of progress [respect for minorities, welcoming refugees, taking down slavers statues] they've picked the wrong city"

I hope so.

Ah. I have just realised that Kenneth Frazier is black, doesn't take anything away from the resignation at all and may he be the first of many!

Trump really is a pathetic child, though I am forever grateful that he provides insight by tweeting his daily thoughts, I wish Theresa May would do the same. Know your enemy and all that.

Someone mentioned a haircut and NK earlier, I'll be honest... In the latest ruckus I had almost forgot the episode of this farce where we are all gonna be nuked.

TESLA's CEO already resigned from the Council, I think. I just can't remember if there was someone else as well?

I know we were pretty prescient on this thread with what the advent of trump would mean but I don't think anyone foresaw that not even 7 months in, we're forgetting about the threat of nuclear war because of the rise Of the nazis.

Ah. Robert Iger (Disney) also resigned. I think.

I don't think I'd registered this before:

shareblue.com/i-wonder-how-many-protesters-i-could-run-over-gop-has-openly-advocated-road-violence/

Bannon's troubles. A Beast piece.

Steve Bannon

(I don't see it myself. Interesting though.)

Worth reading

www.vox.com/2017/8/14/16141078/charlottesville-unite-the-right-nazi-history-timothy-snyder

This bit sums it up
^His reaction to this event is to say that everyone is at fault, and we should all hold together. That's not the reaction that one would expect from the president of the United States. But it is consistent with what I've been trying to get across for the past few months. It's consistent with Trump and Steven Bannon's attempt to do away with the part of the American story that celebrates entering and winning the Second World War. It's consistent with their attempt to do away with the part of the American identity that has to do with being anti-fascist, or anti-Nazi. It's consistent with their botching the Holocaust Remembrance Day in January. It's consistent with the utterly bizarre way that Sean Spicer talked about the Holocaust, when he said Hitler didn't kill his own people. It's consistent with Trump being the first major American politician in recent memory to skip visiting the Ghetto Memorial when he came to Warsaw in August.

And above all, it's consistent with his “America First” slogan. This is what America First means. America First means an America where a Nazi Germany was not the enemy. So that's the broad historical circle. We have an administration which has "America First." What "America First" meant when it was used during the WWII era was that we should not resist Nazi Germany. Mr. Trump's remarks on Saturday are totally consistent with that.

This is who and what the administration has been from the very beginning^

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=t.co/kBmZ17D0J3?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=t.co/kBmZ17D0J3?amp=1

North Korea’s Missile Success Is Linked to Ukrainian Plant, Investigators Say

John Oliver makes a good point: reverse Godwin's Law, if you fail to mention the nazis you lose the argument.

Speaking of Godwin:
'By all means, compare these s*heads to the Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.'

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/godwins-law-mike-godwin-internet-hitler-charlottesville-virginia-donald-trump-a7892171.html

"If you’re thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler or Nazis when you talk about Trump," he wrote in the Washington Post late last year. "Or any other politician."

I'll bet the WH didn't comment, Pain.

Thanks for that, Lweji.

On the Daily Beast piece about Bannon, I have to disagree with this (and similar thoughts):

"Outside critics of Bannon, including recently fired White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci, said this weekend that Bannon and Breitbart (“Bannonbart,” as The Mooch said) are badly damaging Trump with their far-right, nationalist “influence.”"

It's not Bannon that is a or the problem. It's Trump himself. Trump gives Bannon that influence.
Trump could migrate towards the centre and gather himself further support, but he's choosing to blow up bridges and align himself with the far right.
He is the one giving Bannon power.

It's Trump himself. Trump gives Bannon that influence.
Trump could migrate towards the centre and gather himself further support, but he's choosing to blow up bridges and align himself with the far right.
He is the one giving Bannon power

^^ This

What never ceases to amaze me is how thick Trump is... he is so godawful at just about everything, what he says, how he puts himself over, it's all hell and fire and aggression. I just don't understand why he doesn't step back and have a think. He must know he's unpopular (his fanbase is shrinking not growing) so why doesn't he just try and speak from the heart. Slowly with eloquence, gently about a subject dear to him... just anything really. Instead it's all name calling, shit stirring, poking a hornets nest, dissing people.
But I have my answer don't I - he doesn't have a heart

Bob Iger (Disney), Elon Musk (Tesla), Travis Kalanick (Uber) & Kenneth Frazier (Merck) have all resigned, so that's four.

They showed up with guns, sticks and torches. And they all went home alive. For those who keep asking, that's #WhitePrivilege

Worth reading too

In a nutshell, Trump's a meglomaniac

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/14/why-is-trump-reluctant-to-condemn-white-terrorism-its-his-racism-and-his-megalomania/?utm_term=.0d5c1f6b3485

Indeed bath. Can you just imagine the response if a group of black guys marched like that carrying automatic weapons. It would be slaughter.

I didn't realise that Kalanick had also resigned. Thanks, Across.

And the US is exporting nazis as well.

Drunken American beaten up for giving Nazi salute in Germany.
The 41-year-old was slightly injured in the attack in Dresden, but faces investigation for breaching the country’s anti-Nazi laws

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/14/drunken-american-beaten-up-for-giving-nazi-salute-in-germany

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Sobering:

In 1939, I didn’t hear war coming. Now its thundering approach can’t be ignored
Harry Leslie Smith
"As a teenager I would just laugh at newsreels of Hitler and other fascists. I hope what happened next is not witnessed again by my grandchildren’s generation"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/14/1939-second-world-war-fascist-thundering-approach-hitler

Yes, bath and Bigly - I keep seeing that photo of the woman standing alone, peacefully, in the path of armed police. (Sorry, I might even have seen it on here, it was along with the comment that the police didn't want to get involved to protect the peaceful anti-Nazi protesters because they were afraid they would make things worse.)
Oh, dear, I'm not making sense. My family is worried by my obsession with Trump and his doings. But I can't help it, I am terrified that this man is the so-called Leader of the Western World and is getting away with murder, almost literally, and nobody is stoppping him. AAAAGGHHH! Sorry.

Just took another look:

Iger and Musk resigned over the Paris Accord (climate)
Kalanick resigned over the Muslim Ban. (immigration)
Frazier resigned over Scrotus's response to Charlottesville (racism)

We just need one to resign over Healthcare and one to resign over Scrotus's militaristic responses to world situations and we'll have a 'bingo' in the game of "Why Scrotus is an Ignorant Bawbag Bingo".

Unfortunately, that's a game where there are NO winners.

A little reminder that a rise in racism and fascism also tends to involve a rise in misogyny.

'Rape insurance': Texas House of Representatives passes bill to make women buy extra coverage for abortions
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/rape-insurance-texas-women-abortions-healthcare-coverage-house-representatives-bill-incest-foetal-a7885786.html?amp

Also worth reading:

Charlottesville started with a statue. Will Americans confront their history now?
Steven W Thrasher

"It is fitting that all of this racial violence originated at the statue of our third president. ‘White Lives Matter’ is a good summation of Jeffersonian thought"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/14/charlottesville-confederate-monuments-racism-us-history

(and I'll add that not only. I'd say many more countries, including the UK and my own Portugal)