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Is this just real life? Is this just fantasy? ScaraMooch, keep your hands away from me. Trump continued

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orlantina · 30/07/2017 17:18

Because the last thread filled up REALLY quickly.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2986638-Seans-gone-Its-sad-Great-guy-Going-to-miss-him-Trump-continued?

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Lweji · 03/08/2017 17:45

So, fighting racism against white people (Sessions)

But clamp down on green cards because of higher unemployment among young black males (Darth Miller).
(See presser clips)

They certainly are consistent.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 17:56

Yashar Ali
Yashar Ali @yashar
. @ChrisCuomo scoop: Mooch to hold Facebook Live event on Friday to tell his side of the story.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/02/politics/anthony-scaramucci-online-event-friday/index.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 17:58

Oliver Darcy @oliverdarcy
—@Cernovich announces "big, big pivot," says he doesn't "want anyone to think of me as a pro-Trump guy"
t.co/EdIPAKNboE?amp=1

Is this just real life? Is this just fantasy? ScaraMooch, keep your hands away from me. Trump continued
orlantina · 03/08/2017 18:14

Remember that phone call with Turnbull (Australian PM)

The President: I do not know what he got out of it. We never get anything out of it - START Treaty, the Iran deal. I do not know where they find these people to make these stupid deals. I am going to get killed on this thing.

Prime Minister Turnbull: You will not.

The President: Yes, I will be seen as a weak and ineffective leader in my first week by these people. This is a killer.

Prime Minister Turnbull: You can certainly say that it was not a deal that you would have done, but you are going to stick with it.

The President: I have no choice to say that about it. Malcom [sic], I am going to say that I have no choice but to honor my predecessor's deal. I think it is a horrible deal, a disgusting deal that I would have never made. It is an embarrassment to the United States of America and you can say it just the way I said it. I will say it just that way. As far as I am concerned that is enough Malcom [sic]. I have had it. I have been making these calls all day and this is the most unpleasant call all day. Putin was a pleasant call. This is ridiculous.

Prime Minister Turnbull: Do you want to talk about Syria and DPRK?

The President: [inaudible] this is crazy.

Prime Minister Turnbull: Thank you for your commitment. It is very important to us.

The President: It is important to you and it is embarrassing to me. It is an embarrassment to me, but at least I got you off the hook. So you put me back on the hook.

Prime Minister Turnbull: You can count on me. I will be there again and again.

The President: I hope so. Okay, thank you Malcolm.

Prime Minister Turnbull: Okay, thank you.

www.smh.com.au/world/full-transcript-donald-trump-and-malcolm-turnbull-telephone-conversation-20170803-gxp13g.html

He really didn't want to honour that deal. It's fascinating to hear them discuss immigration and refugees.

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cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 18:21

I 'believe' that Mooch is holding the event on 5 platforms, Pain. (Facilitated by a Fox person.) It will be pro-45.

Lweji · 03/08/2017 18:27

He decided to retire to dedicate more time to his family?

cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 18:38

I'm not sure he's said anything other than to claim he was targeted by 'others' e.g. the media and was ..........misrepresented. It's a high risk strategy.

badbadhusky · 03/08/2017 19:30

misrepresented

That's hilarious. He was accurately reported being a total arse (Ryan Lizza has been quite clear that the has the recordings to back up his account). What a twat!

BossyBitch · 03/08/2017 19:32

Blimey! SCROTUS' aggregated approval rating as per fivethirtyeight.com has now dropped to 37%.

Unlike US-Russia relations, this actually is an all-time low!

badbadhusky · 03/08/2017 19:35

Don't talk soft, Bossy. Most of the naysayers are stupid ol' Dems who Trumpy doesn't love or court anyway. Wink

badbadhusky · 03/08/2017 19:36

If his popularity ratings hit a floor below which the survey companies do not publish, I really, really hope someone on the inside leaks his actual score. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets below 20% at this rate.

Roussette · 03/08/2017 19:44

Here is the audio of The Mooch's convo with Lizza which New Yorker has just released. Not sure where 'misrepresentation' comes into it as it's there for all the world to hear!

badbadhusky · 03/08/2017 19:47

Excellent. Well done New Yorker - challenge the cries of "fake news" head on.

BossyBitch · 03/08/2017 19:51

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets below 20% at this rate.

The comparisons with previous presidents are actually quite interesting here. At the present time, the development of Trump's approval ratings seems to very roughly parallel the initial phases of the Obama, Carter and Johnson presidencies (i.e. similar curve development, except Trump's approval is significantly lower than any of the others').

If Trump continues following the Obama model (albeit with reduced values), he'll drop to the high(-ish) twenties but will go no lower, i.e. terrible but not quite catastrophic. Both the Carter and the Johnson trajectories would have him go below 20% some time in mid-to-late 2019, i.e. just when the 2020 election will be looming really large.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Trump is his very own model ... or that he pulls a G.W.B. and massively benefits from some truly catastrophic event.

Who knows?

cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 19:54

Well to be fair to the Mooch, he might actually have said 'misconstrued'. Wink

Roussette · 03/08/2017 19:55

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/2/16082750/trump-daughter-in-law-lara-facebook-program-real-news

Oh god, nauseating. This is the one married to Eric (the son with a face for radio Grin)

cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 20:03

Look on the bright side. It was probably sold to 45 by ET and LT. Smile

lionheart · 03/08/2017 20:08

It's all very leaky isn't it?

cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 20:09

A thought from CNN.

Still not sold?

Lweji · 03/08/2017 20:14

It's all very leaky isn't it?

Allegedly.
Wink

cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 20:17

Actually, I think they're giving Kelly a bit of a honeymoon. I doubt it will last. Smile

orlantina · 03/08/2017 21:00

This bit from last nights presser shows Sanders struggle to find alternate words to describe the word "lie"

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 03/08/2017 21:16

Thanks orlantina, ''tis a good watch

cozietoesie · 03/08/2017 21:23

Gosh. It's worth noting that, from reading the article, Mueller's team aren't leaking, either.